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Keybreaker
06-19-2012, 11:00 PM
There was some discussion of this conflated with and lost in the discussion of the other Fighter PRE (which was resolved with re-typing Kensai STR Surge), but I'd like to draw attention to this one last time:

With the change of Exceptional +1 stats on ToD rings re-typed to "competence" bonus, it produces the counter-intuitive result that the +1 CON bonus from the Band of Siberys (of the Stalwart Defender ToD Set) no longer stacks with the +2/4/6 CON bonus from Stalwart Defender Stance, which has always been typed as a "competence" bonus.

For the same reason, none of the +1 STR bonuses on any ToD rings will stack with the +2/4/6 STR bonus from Stalwart Defender Stance. (DoS pallies need not worry since their +2/4/6 STR/CON bonus from stance is a "sacred" bonus.)

I can not know the minds of the devs, but it seems intuitively that this is not a planned result. I understand the need to "type" the previously untyped "exceptional" stat bonuses. But this change seems to arbitrarily nerf Stalwart Defenders.

Was this an intended nerf? Or the unintended result of a global change to ToD ring stat bonus typing? If the latter, I'm making one last public appeal to have the ToD Ring +1 or the SD +STR/CON bonus retyped so they continue to stack with each other as they always have on live.

Thanks.

B0ltdrag0n
06-19-2012, 11:27 PM
You shouldn't get a boost from the new bard song feat either. It seems to be typed competence as well.

Ryiah
06-20-2012, 12:23 AM
I'm making one last public appeal to have the ToD Ring +1 or the SD +STR/CON bonus retyped so they continue to stack with each other as they always have on live.

If this is unintended I'd expect it changed about when they make enhancement changes. Hopefully they'll type the STR/CON bonuses you get to something else.

BruceTheHoon
06-20-2012, 03:41 AM
They ****ed up with the ability bonuses big time. They have the exceptional type already available, but don't want to use it, because of it's stacking nature. Well, since there are no different exceptional bonuses left in the game, there is no fear of us getting an accidental astronomical +2 boost to an ability.
It's like they are afraid of their own creation and with the deadlines coming fast, they are frantically making changes based on instinct instead of thinking them through.

Ape_Man
06-20-2012, 07:49 AM
There is no acceptable explanation for this change. please change it back.

Keybreaker
06-20-2012, 10:03 AM
You shouldn't get a boost from the new bard song feat either. It seems to be typed competence as well.

Boo. That would suck.

camgib
06-26-2012, 02:06 PM
Has there been any response to this?

I haven't heard a dev (or anyone else with any specific information) comment on this.