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licho
03-05-2012, 03:03 PM
Just a idea of new feat:

Power Critical
Requires: BAB +12, said weapon profficiency, corresponding improved criticals for weapon type.
Limitacion: Only 1h Weapon, can be taken multiply times for different weapons (each time for one only). Cant be taken for Khopesh. Can be taken for throwing weapons, but not other ranged.
Effect: On natural 19 and 20 the critical multiplyer for said weapon is rise by 1.
This effect stacks with similar effect from other sources. (weapon/class enhancement)
The feat can be taken by monks, fighter, rogues as their bonus feat.


What for:
The aim of this feat is a close the gap between general 1h weapons and khopesh. Currently Khopesh are no brainer weapon to the point when picking anything else is a interesting way to gimp yourself.
The main benefitors of this feat will be all flavor builds using no khopesh, as well as racial weapon users.

Notes:
This feat for good or bad do not influence general game balance (or inbalance). Still the best agro 2wf option will be some kind of Khopesh Horc with some fighter/barbarian/ranger combination.
In fact Khopesh still will be supperior weapon since it will have a better dice for the same price.
The balance between 2wf/2hf will stay as was.
Also this feat will kick in in some late game, in the time when differences between Khopesh and else are getting wider.


And thats it, i suppose its very elegant solution, since its not so hard to code. The math behind is strong and no matter what other things will change the feat will still does the job.

The best part is that there is no need to deal with agro of khopesh using folks, since their stick will still be no1, and even in some ******** contest it will be easy to have bigger numbers than some drow.

This idea is too good, can we spoil it somehow?
Sure.
We can for example include khopesh to the list for the feat, so the whole point of balancing khopesh vs else will land in dustbin. The next step will to give it to also ranged, and 2hf, and name it a great buff for melees (some national day) . Since why not.
We can also dress our white beard, and say something like "we need 3 more feats to compete khopesh profficiency" and each of this feats will give 3-10 dmg per hit. And then enjoy a new fig6/monk2 meta.
Even ilcalculate people can make stuff up.

Jay203
03-05-2012, 03:09 PM
so... a heavy pick with base x4 multiplier which will crit on 19~20 after improve crit
with your "power critical" will be x5 on 19~20
on a frenzy berserker III, it's going to be x7 on 19~20? :o

Teharahma
03-05-2012, 03:10 PM
Even ilcalculate people can make stuff up.

This doesn't mean they should, not signed.

licho
03-05-2012, 03:14 PM
so... a heavy pick with base x4 multiplier which will crit on 19~20 after improve crit
with your "power critical" will be x5 on 19~20
on a frenzy berserker III, it's going to be x7 on 19~20? :o

Yes, it may sound crazy but there is no difference in crit profile between:
19-20/x5 and 17-20/x3. (the berserker III affects both in same way)
And also Khopesh will still have this 1d8 dice. While for both option you need to spend 1 feat, and u r limited to one weapon.

xoowak
03-05-2012, 03:18 PM
I'd prefer to see a general buff to other weapons, rather than having to burn a feat (rogues and pallys are going to have a hard time fitting another feat). I also dislike weird exceptions build directly into the feat (only 1H, but not khopesh). Why not ranged or THF?

I don't see it as only being for flavor builds; a feat like that would be a no-brainer for any monk. x4 in earth stance?

HungarianRhapsody
03-05-2012, 03:19 PM
I would just like to see Power Critical actually stack so that it would be potentially worth taking even if you already have Seeker.

licho
03-05-2012, 03:29 PM
I'd prefer to see a general buff to other weapons, rather than having to burn a feat (rogues and pallys are going to have a hard time fitting another feat). I also dislike weird exceptions build directly into the feat (only 1H, but not khopesh). Why not ranged or THF?

I don't see it as only being for flavor builds; a feat like that would be a no-brainer for any monk. x4 in earth stance?

Why not 2h.ranged?
Because its to balance weapons inside 1h family. Balancing 2wf and whf and ranged is a another story.
The best weapon inside will still be khopesh, and all other stuff can be balanced to 2wf khopeshes.

Now rogues and pallys have to choose between using khopesh and using free weapon. And some make a choice of one or another. This feat as proposed will do not changed anything here. Since every folk who do not take khopesh will do not take this feat. The guys who will have spare feat will ahve a choice.

Monks earth stance is a class feature as well as barbarian III and Kensai stuff. Its not a problem.


I'd prefer to see a general buff to other weapons, rather than having to burn a feat
This is your opinion the other aproach:
- Its ok to burn the feat if there is a feat to burn. For example if you are scimitar user, at some point you realize that you cant buff your dps with feats at all, and the next step is to take Khopesh.
- If you burn the feat, you shoudl get something. Khopesh are supperior weapon since you need to burn a feat. If you want superrior rapier than burn the feat as well. IF you dont have a feat then its a flaw/perk of your build, it probably have some other advantages.
Its not like every build should have all good stuff and nothing to look behind.
Also note as i proposed to add the feat in the bonus rogue list.