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Necrobotanist
10-07-2011, 04:04 PM
The puzzle this time was to max out swim score.

The highest score at the close of the contest was 116 and there were two entrants who posted that total. As far as I can see their builds are valid.

Curiously they came up with three different builds to get there. I post the builds below.

The winners

Devastation
Der_kluge


Based on /roll d2

Der_kluge is the winner!

Turbine point code sent!

After the puzzle end, Der_kluge also sent an update with ideas of how to get your score even higher (also posted below). He came up with 119 in the end.

Special mention also to dbaque with an entry of 110.

Thanks everybody for listening and playing.

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Necrobotanist
10-07-2011, 04:05 PM
skills:
+23 base skills
+4 Improved Swim IV enhancement (you must have a class with at least 12 levels to qualify for all IV ranks in this)
+5 human versatility IV

Feats
+3 Skill focus (Swim)
+2 Athletic
+1 rogue past life
+2 completionist
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40 base
Items:
+6 Greensteel +3/+2/+1 exceptional (greensteel belt)
+2 epic ring of the buccaneer (good luck)
+15 epic ring of the buccaneer (competence)

+3 skill potion (alchemical)
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66 base skill

strength:
18 base strength
19 +1 human adaptability
24 5 level ups of strength

26 +2 str ship buff (artifact)

items:
30 +4 strength tome
33 epic cape of the Roc +1/+2 exceptional strength
40 epic grim's bracelet +7 enhancement)
42 madstone rage +2 (madstone boots)

44 double madstone rage +2 (2nd pair of madstone boots)
50 Gloves of Titan's Grip (+6 psionic)
52 Yugoloth potion (essence of fury)
55 alchemical potion +3 (alchemical)
57 DDO Store Potion +2

feats:
59 Completionist +2
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+24 from strength
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90
Bard 18/rogue1/barb1 (the best class combo for this)
+2 +2 str (61) rage spell (strength morale)
+4 greater heroism (skill morale)

+18 merfolk's blessing spell (enhancement)
+1 focusing chant (bard spell) (circumstance)

+2 +4 str (65) from barbarian rage

+2 rogue skill boost enhancement

+29

+119

Situational/Seasonal
+2 +4 str (69) hezrou cookie (profane)
+5 psionic skill boost from getting all of the Degenev brothers' succubi in the marketplace
127 total possible Swim

(although, it's probably not possible in reality due to the short duration of some of these)



Note from the botanist: I discounted the +2 for double Madstone in determining the winner because Devastation wrote he would not consider this a 'self buff', but he did take account of it in his submission.

Necrobotanist
10-07-2011, 04:07 PM
I will start with this post UltimateHalf-Orc Strength (The 100+ Strength project) By Shade as a reference...

Now I will be making some changes so allow me to list out his breakdown and make my changes....

Maximum Strength Build:
Half-Orc Pure Barbarian 20: Change Half-Orc to Half-Elf
Amount Type - Source
Permanent Bonuses
20 Base - Creation Half-Elf's can't get max 20... so 18
05 Base - Level ups (4,8,12,16,20)
02 Race - Half-Orc Enhancement Half-Elf's Don't get this enhancement
04 Inherant - +4 Tome
02 Feat - Might Capstone Enhancement
02 Feat - Completionist

Permanent Equipment based bonuses:
07 Enchantment - Epic Red Dragon Helm
03 Exceptional - +1 and +2 bonuses on the Encrusted ToD Ring
02 Untyped - Frenzy Berserker III ToD Set Bonus

Increases to rage, so near-permanent
08 Rage - Mighty Rage
04 Rage - Power Rage Enhancement
02 Rage - Orc Power Rage Enhancement Not an Orc ... so we don't get this strength.

Temporary Bonuses:
02 Untyped - Madstone
02 Untyped - Double Madstone Self buff, means your not in combat... this does not apply
06 Untyped - Bloodrage
04 Untyped - Pastlife Bonus Change in U11 made a change to the past life rage it is not supposed to stack now
02 Untyped - Frenzy
04 Untyped - Death Frenzy
04 Untyped - Berserker's Fury Clicky
02 Untyped - Yugoloth Potion
02 Artifact - +2 Strength Ship Buff
02 Store - DDO Store Potion
02 Morale - Rage Spell
03 Alchemical - House D Potion
04 Profane - Hezrou Cookie**
06 Psyonic - Titan Cookie**
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Grand Total at full HP: 108 Due to above changes Total would be 94 total Str

So lets clean this up..... My build would be:


Half-Elf Pure Barbarian 20: Dilettante Sorc or Wiz
Permanent Bonuses
18 Base - Creation
05 Base - Level ups (4,8,12,16,20)
04 Inherant - +4 Tome
02 Feat - Might Capstone Enhancement
02 Feat - Completionist

Permanent Equipment based bonuses:
07 Enchantment - Epic Red Dragon Helm
03 Exceptional - +1 and +2 bonuses on the Encrusted ToD Ring
02 Untyped - Frenzy Berserker III ToD Set Bonus

Increases to rage, so near-permanent
08 Rage - Mighty Rage
04 Rage - Power Rage Enhancement

Temporary Bonuses:
02 Untyped - Madstone
06 Untyped - Bloodrage
02 Untyped - Frenzy
04 Untyped - Death Frenzy
04 Untyped - Berserker's Fury Clicky
02 Untyped - Yugoloth Potion
02 Artifact - +2 Strength Ship Buff
02 Store - DDO Store Potion
02 Morale - Rage Spell
03 Alchemical - House D Potion
04 Profane - Hezrou Cookie**
06 Psyonic - Titan Cookie**
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Total Strength 94 = 42 modifier

Now lets break down the skill:

42 Str Modifier
23 Ranks
15 Swim Item
06 Green Still Str Skill Item
04 Greater Heroism from Planer Gird
02 Good luck
04 Improved Swim Enhancement
03 House D potion
02 Completionist
05 Human Versatility
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Subtotal = 106

10 Using a CL 1 Merfolk's Blessing Scroll or Wand (Dilettante Enhancement allows this)

Total would be 116 Swim Self Buffed


If these Items were in the game ( I believe they are not)
+12 Using a CL 5 Merfolk's Blessing Wand, Total would be 118
+15 Using a CL 10 Merfolk's Blessing Wand, Total would be 121

Necrobotanist
10-07-2011, 04:10 PM
Here is my build for 110 swim modifier:

Race: Half-elf
Class: Bard 20

Feats:
Athletic
Skill Focus (swim)
Past Life: Sneak of the Shadows
Past Life: Berserker's Fury
Completionist
Dilletante: Fighter

Enhancements:
Human Versatility IV (skills)
Half-elf fighter strength
Human adaptability strength
Improved Swim IV

Spells/buffs in effect:
Merfolk blessing (bard spell)
Greater Heroism (bard spell)
+2 airship shrine
Phiarlan Inspiration
Essence of Fury (yugoloth potion)
Gloves of titan's grip clicky (+8 psionic strength)


Items:
GS accessory: +6 str-skill hp item
T3 Epic buccaneer ring
T3 Epic brawling glove
ToD ring w/ exceptional strength +2

Strength breakdown:
18- starting
5- level up increases
4- +4 tome
2- completionist

7- enhancement bonus (epic brawling gloves)
2- exceptional bonus (ToD ring enhancement)
1- half-elf fighter enhancement
1- human adaptability enhancement
4- Berserker fury rage
2- airship shrine
2- yugoloth potion
8- Titan's grip clicky

56 strength-> +23 bonus

Swim skill breakdown:
23- ranks
23- ability
0- armor check penalty
2- athletic
3- skill focus (swim)
15- competence (Epic Buccaneer ring)
2- luck (Epic Buccaneer ring)
4- morale (Greater Heroism)
19- enhancement (Merfolk's Blessing)
6- Greensteel hp accessory
4- Improved Swim IV
2- Completionist
1- Sneak of the Shadows
1- Phiarlan Inspiration
5- Human Versatility

110 swim skill modifier

Brennie
10-07-2011, 04:16 PM
Do Rogue skill boost and Human Versatility (Which i assume is the skill version) stack? (in reference to post #2)

Necrobotanist
10-07-2011, 04:27 PM
Do Rogue skill boost and Human Versatility (Which i assume is the skill version) stack? (in reference to post #2)

Oh good eyes I missed that.

Also, I am getting +18 swim on my level 16 bard, so I think a level 18 bard should get +19 from Merfolk's blessing. Can anyone test that? Or at least report on a pure bard.

der_kluge
10-08-2011, 06:47 PM
Oh good eyes I missed that.

Also, I am getting +18 swim on my level 16 bard, so I think a level 18 bard should get +19 from Merfolk's blessing. Can anyone test that? Or at least report on a pure bard.

I TR'd my bard, unfortunately, but according to the description, it's 10 + 1 for every 2 levels above 1st. Which I took to mean 3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19 - which is a maximum of +19 at 19th level. An 18th level bard should be able to produce a +18. Unless the description is wrong. Although, I guess it could mean every even level, which means a +20 at 20th level.