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goodoldxelos
09-21-2011, 01:57 PM
Aging option, after achieving a legend build you get age points with a maximum of 3. When you TR your character you can allow a character to age up to 3 times (assuming you have 3 TRs past legend) which would cause a -1 decrease in str, con and dex for an increase +1 int, char, wisdom for each point spent. With the aging categories being from pnp, Middle-age, old, venerable.

SirValentine
09-21-2011, 02:12 PM
Aging option, after achieving a legend build you get age points with a maximum of 3. When you TR your character you can allow a character to age up to 3 times (assuming you have 3 TRs past legend) which would cause a -1 decrease in str, con and dex for an increase +1 int, char, wisdom for each point spent. With the aging categories being from pnp, Middle-age, old, venerable.

If you're going to do that at all, you should do it per the pen-and-paper rules.

First time, -1 Str/Dex/Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha.
2nd time, -2 Str/Dex Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha, for a total of -3 Str/Dex/Con, +2 Int/Wis/Cha.
3rd time, -3 Str/Dex Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha, for a total of -6 Str/Dex/Con, +3 Int/Wis/Cha.

Otherwise it would be too overpowered for casters.

goodoldxelos
09-21-2011, 02:16 PM
that works, knew the feature existed but rarely used and didnt read it very well.. but you get the point i guess. It seemed unbalanced when i typed it up glad you noted that. seems much more fair even in ddo standards.

mournbladereigns
09-21-2011, 02:21 PM
If you're going to do that at all, you should do it per the pen-and-paper rules.

First time, -1 Str/Dex/Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha.
2nd time, -2 Str/Dex Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha, for a total of -3 Str/Dex/Con, +2 Int/Wis/Cha.
3rd time, -3 Str/Dex Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha, for a total of -6 Str/Dex/Con, +3 Int/Wis/Cha.

Otherwise it would be too overpowered for casters.

The only way people would do this if it also raised the Racial Maximums. And DDOers are severly con-debuff phobic. Don't imagein anyone doing this. If it adjusted your racial maximums instead. (max STR/DEX/Con lowered by 6, and int/wis/cha boosted, then people might consider it. Even then, 12/14 max con is still gonna drive peeps away. 15 max str/dex/con (adjusted for racial penalties/bonuses) would probably make people consider it.

Diyon
09-21-2011, 02:23 PM
Technically, monks (and druids) get timeless body, which prevents all of the negative effects of aging but not the positive.

Keybreaker
09-21-2011, 02:27 PM
Aging option, after achieving a legend build you get age points with a maximum of 3. When you TR your character you can allow a character to age up to 3 times (assuming you have 3 TRs past legend) which would cause a -1 decrease in str, con and dex for an increase +1 int, char, wisdom for each point spent. With the aging categories being from pnp, Middle-age, old, venerable.

If you're going to do that at all, you should do it per the pen-and-paper rules.

First time, -1 Str/Dex/Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha.
2nd time, -2 Str/Dex Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha, for a total of -3 Str/Dex/Con, +2 Int/Wis/Cha.
3rd time, -3 Str/Dex Con, +1 Int/Wis/Cha, for a total of -6 Str/Dex/Con, +3 Int/Wis/Cha.

Otherwise it would be too overpowered for casters.

No. As people get older, they don't get smarter, wiser, or wittier... they just think they do.

They should just get the penalties and no bonuses for aging...

But seriously, this is a terrible idea. If you were old enough, you'd see why. Or maybe you wouldn't.

ghettoGenius
09-21-2011, 02:40 PM
No. As people get older, they don't get smarter, wiser, or wittier... they just think they do.

They should just get the penalties and no bonuses for aging...

But seriously, this is a terrible idea. If you were old enough, you'd see why. Or maybe you wouldn't.

Its not like its some natural process of aging. The premise is that as people get older, their experiences yield them more opportunities to learn. This act of learning and experience lends itself to wisdom in those that can actually learn from their mistakes in life. And likewise, those with more years behind them should have had plenty of opportunities to actually learn new things, thus increasing their overall knowledge or intelligence.

Diyon
09-21-2011, 03:28 PM
No. As people get older, they don't get smarter, wiser, or wittier... they just think they do.

They should just get the penalties and no bonuses for aging...

But seriously, this is a terrible idea. If you were old enough, you'd see why. Or maybe you wouldn't.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0218.html

cdemeritt
09-21-2011, 03:34 PM
I just want to see more body types... Everyone is so fit and trim...

I'd love to see retired toons start putting weight on...

Xenostrata
09-21-2011, 03:42 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0218.html

I was going to quote that one :(

If there was an online version of Start of Darkness, I'd post the ending conversation between Redcloak and Righteye about how aging without a prospect of death doesn't make you smarter, just gives you the chance to make the same mistakes multiple times.

SirValentine
09-21-2011, 03:46 PM
No. As people get older, they don't get smarter, wiser, or wittier... they just think they do.

They should just get the penalties and no bonuses for aging...

But seriously, this is a terrible idea. If you were old enough, you'd see why. Or maybe you wouldn't.

It's not realistic, of course. But this is an MMO based on a fantasy role-playing game. It's a pretty common fantasy archtype to have the wise old person, the very old, smart wizards, the old highly-charismatic manipulative villian, etc.. It's a highly stylized genre, not exactly reflecting the real world.

In what percentage of fantasy novels (and films, for that matter), do people say about the old wizards, "he was brilliant when he was young, but he hasn't had an original thought in decades", the way folks might about some math or physics professor in the real world?

And, Intelligence aside, you could still make some good arguments for Wisdom and Charisma increasing with age, up to a point.

Keybreaker
09-21-2011, 05:24 PM
No. As people get older, they don't get smarter, wiser, or wittier... they just think they do.

They should just get the penalties and no bonuses for aging...

But seriously, this is a terrible idea. If you were old enough, you'd see why. Or maybe you wouldn't.

See how old and unwise I am? I should've know better than to be sarcastic on the internet.

Infiltraitor
09-22-2011, 03:26 AM
It's not realistic, of course.
And, Intelligence aside, you could still make some good arguments for Wisdom and Charisma increasing with age, up to a point.

Of course it isn't realistic.
1) Charisma decreases with age. Young and pretty sways more people than old and wrinkly.
2) People don't get wiser with age. They've just reach the point where most of the imbeciles of their generation have died out.
3) Alzheimers, dementia, strokes get in the way. Pretty much every measurable cognitive function fails the test of time.