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voodoogroves
08-25-2011, 11:17 AM
Today all FVS have wings

Also, there is only a single PRE available - Angel of Vengeance. It has a number of multiplicative, stacking debuffs as well as a basic boost to light, untyped and other spell damage. Since it is the only game in town, just about every FVS has Tier 1 which gets a decent boost to spell damage + the stacking debuffs. Wings are, apparently, problematic in some instances via the ability to stack on huge amounts of ongoing damage with Divine Punishment and then wing away to safety while maintaining the stack.


Divine Avenger was hinted at being somewhat ready in the near future. It would be a more melee focused PRE based on their description - smites, etc. It's a PRE that wants to hit things, so give those FVS who don't want to DP kite bosses and instead are fine with smashing face the capability to zip around like they used to. We can use them to get INTO the fight. DP for those won't generate near the damage or threat to pull boss aggro and the rest of the class abilities will make those FVS want to be in the thick of things.

Please
(1) Release Divine Avenger soon
(2) Consider giving it full wings

dragons1ayer74
08-25-2011, 11:23 AM
If one pre has unlimited wing power what would the other ones offer that could make it better. I just hope they are still playing around on the test server and hopefully these proposed changes do not go live as currently proposed. 5 base charges :(

At least make the number of base charges or recharge time modifiable by pre, enhancements and stats and also make it not use charges in explorer and town zones.

Soleran
08-25-2011, 11:26 AM
It's a PRE that wants to hit things, so give those FVS who don't want to DP kite bosses and instead are fine with smashing face the capability to zip around like they used to. We can use them to get INTO the fight.

While I personally HATE the nerf to wings and offered options as well I'm not seeing how doing this would change anything.

What FVS doesn't take the PRE since there is only 1 currently with AoV 1 and AoV 2.

All those wf fvs that were in melee combat and doting bosses were probably a large reason for this nerf to begin with due to this new encounter.

Avidus
08-25-2011, 11:31 AM
It's a PRE that wants to hit things, so give those FVS who don't want to DP kite bosses and instead are fine with smashing face the capability to zip around like they used to. We can use them to get INTO the fight.

Even if the only thing tier III offered is wings as they work now on live, I would take the pre in less than a heartbeat.

Sadly this idea will not come to fruition. They have made up their minds, kiting (only with wings) is evil. If they give you wings you will deform their game. <sarcasm>Using LoF to often in raids will soon be a reportable offense and the ban hammer will come </sarcasm>
They made no mention of even checking in on how it actually worked on lama. There is even a post saying the more that Nick and company did the raids the less they used the wings...

voodoogroves
08-25-2011, 11:33 AM
That's Angel of Vengeance, the spell DPS boosting, aura of condemnation having PRE. All FVS have some flavor of this because it's the only game in town.

Eladrin posted that they were working on the Divine Avenger PRE which would be melee focused.

I'm asking that particular PRE gets full wings.

voodoogroves
08-25-2011, 11:36 AM
I think maybe I need to be more clear.


Will edit the top post.

Soleran
08-25-2011, 11:40 AM
That's Angel of Vengeance, the spell DPS boosting, aura of condemnation having PRE. All FVS have some flavor of this because it's the only game in town.

Eladrin posted that they were working on the Divine Avenger PRE which would be melee focused.

I'm asking that particular PRE gets full wings.

Right I understood what you said which is why I stated we only have 1 pre atm and we've seen that putting our eggs in the development of future pre's is just a wish so really we should address today's issue rather then hoping for tomorrow's changes.

voodoogroves
08-25-2011, 11:44 AM
Right I understood what you said which is why I stated we only have 1 pre atm and we've seen that putting our eggs in the development of future pre's is just a wish so really we should address today's issue rather then hoping for tomorrow's changes.

Sure, I can empathize with that ... but given today's release notes with the wing-nerf in play (a secondary effect) and an only minor adjustment to the DPS of Divine Punishment and the stacking auras (you can't kite a boss who's aggro you can't hold) my belief is that there may be a ship that has sailed.

In either case, keep pressing on the current change.

I'm going to work this angle too.