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phum
06-11-2011, 03:53 AM
We had our elections a while ago and this morning it struck me that all pts and raids in DDO are pretty much dictatorships. This causes problems for the party leaders too as some are ill-suited to responsibility and some simply dislike it.

In some not-to-be-named games this is circumvented by raid finders or what did they call it.

An other, less anonymous solution would be to add small elements of democracy:P Bare with me with the wording:) What I suggest is that after some1 applies to a pt, all current members have a 5 sec voting time to accept or decline. Not voting counts as accept. Some percentage of votes required (e.g. 30 or 50%) for acceptance.

The same can be applied to kicking. Both out of dungeon and in dungeon. To kick in dungeon, all other votes are needed (the char being voted on won't see the vote being happening) and to kick outside of a dungeon e.g. 50% are needed. I would also suggest a penalty for kicking in dungeon to both the char voted out AND the group that kicked him. The penalty shouldn't be too harsh. It could be e.g. pp or debuff to loot or abilities. And the inability to refill maybe. Kicking someone disconnected should maybe have a timer of e.g. 3 mins for a kick without penalty.

Anyway, the current system creates unnecessary gripes and hard fealings and I think the voting system would help. Kicking from party is another topic, but IMO possible and not too hard to implement with a voting system such as the one described above.

Asketes
06-11-2011, 03:54 AM
horse has been beaten enough, this will only cause more issues.


NO

Puppetian
06-11-2011, 04:07 AM
No. Don't like how star acts/class balance/people accepted/colour of your socks? Have the guts to drop and form your own party. Simple as that.

altrocks
06-11-2011, 04:07 AM
If you don't like who's running the party, don't join. If you don't like who joins the party once you're in, leave it. If you don't want someone in your party, decline them. If you have a HoX LFM up for 4 hours and no one hits it up, make a new account, because no one wants to run with you.

Pretty simple, no real problems, no need to change it.

mobrien316
06-11-2011, 06:35 AM
Some leaders suck, that's the truth...

In a party a few days ago I got the impression our "leader" was a 14-year-old kid who was drunk on power. Most of his content in the chat window was things like:

"As your leader, I'm assigning you go to go buy a cleric hireling if we don't fill up soon."

"Since I'm the leader, I want everyone to call out their ship level so I can figure out where to buff."

"Who is going to be my bodyguard?"

(Of course, the spelling, punctuation, and grammer were those of a first-grader with crippling ADD, but I couldn't bring myself to try to be that authentic...)

However, I agree with one of the earlier comments; if you think your leader is a tool then drop the group and join/form another.

phalaeo
06-11-2011, 06:40 AM
No thank you.

sweez
06-11-2011, 06:59 AM
This causes problems for the party leaders too as some are ill-suited to responsibility and some simply dislike it.

So don't run with them, problem solved.