View Full Version : Do Command Armor and UMD Bonuses Stack?

03-14-2011, 08:07 AM
Items "of command" say they boost "all Charisma based skill checks" in the description. Does this bonus apply to UMD? Does this bonus stack?

03-14-2011, 08:26 AM
Yes it applies to UMD. No, it does not stack with *most* bonuses to UMD.

Command/Persuasion are both Competence Bonuses to Charisma checks, do not stack.

Golden Cartouche/etc. UMD Gear are also Competence Bonuses, do not stack. Highest value wins.

Only certain items, such as the Epic Big Top, or Epic Spyglass fully upgraded, will stack with Command/Persuasion, because the UMD bonus becomes an "Enhancement" bonus.

03-14-2011, 08:44 AM
Side note: another common source of stacking UMD is exceptional bonus to Cha skills (e.g. on Shroud-crafted items).