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Drfirewater79
03-10-2011, 10:41 AM
As the game progresses ... especially with the rumor of lvl 25 reaching most ears as something planned for this year .. older raids become a drag .. repeating the same raid over and over for gear that is effectively made useless by epics.

While shroud weapons are not quite there yet ... its much easier to get a Antique greataxe epic then it is to get a min II ingredients and shards and blank weapon and and and and.

So why not use the revers refuge idea ... allow us to trade in three smalls for a random medium .. three mediums for a random large.

Keeping them random rather then selected .. prevents people from quickly obtaining large scales or stones (the more rare ingredients) easily ... but it means that having 100 small devil scales and 100 medium chains ... and a 100 large bones .. could lead to 1 large devil scale.

This means if you run 100 shrouds and only get 5 devil scales you can trade in the millions of other ingredients you have and MAYBE with a bit of luck get the larges you need to complete an item.

I think this conversion MUCH LIKE REAVERS should only be able to be done at the appropriate alter. Either on your gulid ship or in the shroud raid or amarath battlefield. But it would lessen the grind of a raid that is well past its "fun" date and well into its grind time.

bryanmeerkat
03-10-2011, 10:44 AM
As the game progresses ... especially with the rumor of lvl 25 reaching most ears as something planned for this year

Really where have your ears heard this ?

Nerveya
03-10-2011, 10:48 AM
As the game progresses ... especially with the rumor of lvl 25 reaching most ears as something planned for this year .. older raids become a drag .. repeating the same raid over and over for gear that is effectively made useless by epics.

While shroud weapons are not quite there yet ... its much easier to get a Antique greataxe epic then it is to get a min II ingredients and shards and blank weapon and and and and.

So why not use the revers refuge idea ... allow us to trade in three smalls for a random medium .. three mediums for a random large.

Keeping them random rather then selected .. prevents people from quickly obtaining large scales or stones (the more rare ingredients) easily ... but it means that having 100 small devil scales and 100 medium chains ... and a 100 large bones .. could lead to 1 large devil scale.

This means if you run 100 shrouds and only get 5 devil scales you can trade in the millions of other ingredients you have and MAYBE with a bit of luck get the larges you need to complete an item.

I think this conversion MUCH LIKE REAVERS should only be able to be done at the appropriate alter. Either on your gulid ship or in the shroud raid or amarath battlefield. But it would lessen the grind of a raid that is well past its "fun" date and well into its grind time.

Indeed, as the previous poster stated I'd like to know where your ears heard this. But rumors are usually just rumors... and nothing else. Not something to take seriously.

Anyway, I think this has some plausibility to it. I like the randomness and it gives people who run the raid a lot something to do with their mats other than hope someone magically needs 40 large bones and is willing to trade a couple scales for them.

Khanyth
03-10-2011, 11:05 AM
I could agree for the bound stuff. For non bound stuff, something already exists: the Forums and the ingame Trade Channel.

As in:
I need 25 small dragon scales. I have 3 large dragon scales.
You have 25 small dragon scales. You need 3 large dragon sclaes.

I advertise in game via the trade channel or on my servers marketplace section my need.
You PM me.
We trade.

ulticleo
03-10-2011, 11:12 AM
I could agree for the bound stuff. For non bound stuff, something already exists: the Forums and the ingame Trade Channel.

As in:
I need 25 small dragon scales. I have 3 large dragon scales.
You have 25 small dragon scales. You need 3 large dragon sclaes.

I advertise in game via the trade channel or on my servers marketplace section my need.
You PM me.
We trade.

you're joking, right? anyone that I know that HAS 3 large devils scale to trade away, has dozens if not hundreds of smalls and mediums (and likely quite a few spare larges of any type as well). Why would they trade for smalls?

Khanyth
03-10-2011, 11:20 AM
you're joking, right? anyone that I know that HAS 3 large devils scale to trade away, has dozens if not hundreds of smalls and mediums (and likely quite a few spare larges of any type as well). Why would they trade for smalls?

You missed the point. I'll try again, but without the confusing example of large and small scales.

Turbine already has created two methods of unbound material exchange and transfer. One method is the ingame Trade Channel and the second in the marketplace subsection of each server section of the forums. Dedicating a dev's time to a third method is unnecessary, where there are two perfectly reasonable and acceptable methods.

bryanmeerkat
03-10-2011, 11:56 AM
I think a lot of problems with people ending up with redonkulous amounts of smalls and mediums is because they dont complete every time .

Perhaps people with over 100 completions may develop a surplus but generally at this point they should have enough larges for what they may want .

Also although nobody will trade you 25 small devils for a large devil . People will buy smalls off the AH or trade channel . And others will be selling larges .

Alavatar
03-10-2011, 01:26 PM
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=290457

It has been discussed.

Most people seem to prefer trading X Large Y for 1 Large Z and not allowing A Small X for 1 Medium X.

The justification for not trading up is: Turbine Store. You can already purchase Small Ingredients with TP. Trading up means you can effectively purchase Large Ingredients with TP, which many see as a Bad Thing™.