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unfiguroutable
03-09-2011, 06:11 PM
So who wants their class forums back?

Aurora1979
03-09-2011, 06:14 PM
Im not sure yet to be quite honest, give me a week or two and ill let you know.

I've had this happen before, i remember when facebook changed its layout and menus. I, and many others, complained about it but after a couple of weeks we got used to it and realised its actually little differance.

We were used to it how it was so now it seems awful, I cant commit to an answer though until ive given myself fair time to adjust :)

stille_nacht
03-09-2011, 06:17 PM
well... there will be more trolling to /popcorn at 8D

WarDestroyer
03-09-2011, 06:18 PM
/signed

This new way it's SO confusing, when running for advice on forums for Sorcs, I don't want to find info about FvS and Clerics at the same time
Maybe agroup sorc w/wizzie, cleric w/FvS MAYBE

stille_nacht
03-09-2011, 06:22 PM
/signed

This new way it's SO confusing, when running for advice on forums for Sorcs, I don't want to find info about FvS and Clerics at the same time
Maybe agroup sorc w/wizzie, cleric w/FvS MAYBE

this, i mean what do healers and casters have to talk to each other about? nothing.

WarDestroyer
03-09-2011, 06:27 PM
this, i mean what do healers and casters have to talk to each other about? nothing.
thats the point :/

sephiroth1084
03-09-2011, 06:33 PM
Aye!

RobinofSpiritwood
03-09-2011, 06:36 PM
Me.

pokeoutyoureardrums
03-09-2011, 06:37 PM
I dunno, a cleric and a wizard make a pretty good team. At least they do when you're against undead. I was running necro with strangers and they all kept running on after the cleric died, so i grabbed the stone and took the time to help. After that we decided screw those guys, just stuck together and walked around annihilating things.

pie2655
03-09-2011, 06:38 PM
Im not sure yet to be quite honest, give me a week or two and ill let you know.

I've had this happen before, i remember when facebook changed its layout and menus. I, and many others, complained about it but after a couple of weeks we got used to it and realised its actually little differance.

We were used to it how it was so now it seems awful, I cant commit to an answer though until ive given myself fair time to adjust :)

Agreed.

stille_nacht
03-09-2011, 06:39 PM
I dunno, a cleric and a wizard make a pretty good team. At least they do when you're against undead. I was running necro with strangers and they all kept running on after the cleric died, so i grabbed the stone and took the time to help. After that we decided screw those guys, just stuck together and walked around annihilating things.

make a good team yes, but will a wizard post on a cleric forum about the subtelties of healing and cleric gear?

Irinis
03-09-2011, 06:39 PM
Would have been nice of them to automatically prefix prior threads from each forum before lumping bards together with rogues and rangers... would also be nice to click on a prefix and see only threads from that prefix. I don't mind the structure but it needs more substructuring to be useful.

pokeoutyoureardrums
03-09-2011, 06:40 PM
make a good team yes, but will a wizard post on a cleric forum about the subtelties of healing and cleric gear?

A good point, that (=

DocBenway
03-09-2011, 06:46 PM
Me.

Me too!

Fejj
03-09-2011, 06:46 PM
Well, I liked the class fourms. If for no other reason than when I had specific questions, or If I was building a new chatacter. I would go to the Bard page, sort results by number of posts, and read the most discussed things about the bards. Then I would sort by date, and read the most current things about bards specifically.

Now I will have to sort through ranger and rogue posts to get at what I want. Not really hard, just not as organized, and not as convient.

I see it as a step backwards, as more people play the game, there will be more class specific posts, why lump them all together?

Thats my 2cp

Ungood
03-09-2011, 06:46 PM
make a good team yes, but will a wizard post on a cleric forum about the subtelties of healing and cleric gear?

Ummm... since when did any of us just play ONE class?

I mean Just because make note that my main is a wizzy, does not mean I do not play a cleric or a FvS, or both, ya know.

WarDestroyer
03-09-2011, 07:02 PM
The thing is, this way is just OK to be, but it just isn't necessary, at all. They said they did this to be more "organized", but it simply won't be. We can get used to it, but it simply isn't needed

FlyingTurtle
03-09-2011, 07:19 PM
My class forum is still there!

Class = n00b, why, there it is:
"New Player Advice and Guidance"

Oakianus
03-09-2011, 07:40 PM
Ummm... since when did any of us just play ONE class?

I mean Just because make note that my main is a wizzy, does not mean I do not play a cleric or a FvS, or both, ya know.

I play a Bard and a Cleric, so clearly those two should be together in one forum.

Yeah, I have to say that this was a horrible idea and I can see no legitimate reason for it at all. :( Is there anyone who can help me figure out what the point happens to be? All I can see is that it makes it harder to find information on your class.

.Revenga.
03-09-2011, 08:30 PM
This just makes things more choatic and difficult to find.

SynalonEtuul
03-09-2011, 08:45 PM
Is this seriously an issue people care about

unfiguroutable
03-09-2011, 08:46 PM
Is this seriously an issue people care about

ya think?

Steveohio
03-09-2011, 09:50 PM
I very much dislike these new forum categories.

When you want information about a class you go to that forum. Now the information is much harder to find. Questions will be lost, more bad answers will be given.

Good god. Can we imagine how bad the battlecleric threads will be now with 3 other classes chiming their unknowledgeable opinions.?

Emili
03-10-2011, 02:23 AM
Is this seriously an issue people care about

I think it is and also with race... do you really want to wade thru every class/race to find some information or questions you may seek on building a halfling rogue/monk?

A very good example ... the last post in the "Human Forum" was this => http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=287347 ... and it now resides 7 pages down in the "Race" forum due to it's date. It "IS" the latest discusion/information on "Humans" but because it's from Dec gets burried. Also it will be pushed down further and further as the more popular races post more... eventually anyone looking for something specific to an less active topic as "Human" race or some less active class such as "Fighter" get's weeded out and falls pages and pages beyond into a place where you'll never read about it again nor get any past ideas or information on.

ariel7
03-10-2011, 02:33 AM
So who wants their class forums back?

I do. This idea is not good. I'm not going to complain a lot, undelete made me happy enough to give a pass to a terrible idea or two.

DeathsApprentice
03-10-2011, 02:35 AM
So who wants their class forums back?

I do

Ungood
03-10-2011, 06:06 AM
Is this seriously an issue people care about

and it seems some of them are really bunched up about it too.

Zenako
03-10-2011, 06:33 AM
If they had auto tagged every thread in the old forums and made the use of the prefix MANDATORY when posting, then it would be tolerable. As it is, they just nuked the value of a LOT of postings by a lot of players.

The other thing that is seriously annoying to many are the lame excuses being given for it. Yes some of the changes are fine. Some were probably needed. But some of the changes appear to have been very poorly thought out and made by people who were not true users and consumers of the information contained on those pages.

It can be hard for a designer to really get into the shoes and soul of the user end, since the designer knows the item or topic so well that they hardly need to think about how to use it.

Imagine a new player to the boards, wants to roll up a Bard for example. Used to have a seperate Bard forum on the list they could go to. Now they have to KNOW or somehow recall that a Bard is a SPECIALIST and go to that forum. Once there they need to now wade thru lots of NON-BARD posts. Very few of the thread titles in a CLASS Specific forum were made with this type of merge in mind, so just looking at the title will NOT give you an idea about where it applies. After reading about Opening Locks and Sneak Attacks for the 20th time, might well get annoyed with the info source (The forums) and just go away and decry the source useless.

Sigh....

werk
03-10-2011, 07:09 AM
So who wants their class forums back?

Couldn't care less, either way. :shrug:

kartos
03-10-2011, 08:08 AM
TBH I like this way of organizing more than the previous I really can't explain why but it feels more natural to me

Cam_Neely
03-10-2011, 08:37 AM
So who wants their class forums back?

me!

I dont see anything gained from the new format. There are numerous builds that fit in many of the new 'class' breakdowns. The best thing about DDO is that you can be a Melee and a caster, ect. Was it really taking up that much sever room, or processing power to have each of the classes?

Noctus
03-10-2011, 08:41 AM
So who wants their class forums back?


Me. Theother forum changes are fine with me, but the class forums rework went bad.

Things got packedtogether that dont belong together. Neither playstyle-wise, nor buildstyle-wise.


And it all got much much more cluttered to sort through the thus much bigger amount of irrelevant threads to a topic you are searching.

1halfelf
03-10-2011, 09:13 AM
This change is a terrible idea. The whole point of a forum is to try and make player knowledge more accessible. How in the world do you do that if you mix it all up? Humans categorize things to make them more easily understandable. Removing categorization removes ease of information finding.

If the purpose of this change was to foster better strategies in gameplay between classes, then why not ADD a forum section called "Strategy" and have multiple subforums underneath for various combinations?

Bad idea... simply a bad idea.

stille_nacht
03-10-2011, 09:21 AM
Ummm... since when did any of us just play ONE class?

I mean Just because make note that my main is a wizzy, does not mean I do not play a cleric or a FvS, or both, ya know.

A: i am reasonably sure that there are a large amount of people with only 1 higher than other chars level main

B: even if you play more than one class (I do), why would you want its info mixed with random info from completely different classes? If you play a wizzy, and you want look for some stuff about wizzies, do you want to look through threads about FvS? or Clerics? i mean sure you might have one, but they are completely unrelated...

Rydin_Dirtay
03-10-2011, 12:51 PM
I don't need two weeks to decide. The changes make the class forums chaotic, disorganized, and illogical, even with tagging. Please change them back.

hityawithastick
03-10-2011, 12:54 PM
At least get us away from those icky divine spellcasters! :mad:

/angrymob

kittyfast
03-10-2011, 01:34 PM
I hate it.

Finding the good threads was hard enough, without another 75% of garbage being piled onto the discussions.

Ill be leaving the forums if it stays exactly as is. Altho from my staggering post count I obviously dont contribute much, but they just made a very useful information resource 75% harder to use for class based information(casters anyway).

If they come up with a way to filter out the classes I don't care about, what was the point of the change then?

kittyfast
03-10-2011, 01:38 PM
Ummm... since when did any of us just play ONE class?

I mean Just because make note that my main is a wizzy, does not mean I do not play a cleric or a FvS, or both, ya know.

I only play Clerics. Literally. Even since AD&D 2e.

Ungood
03-10-2011, 02:54 PM
I only play Clerics. Literally. Even since AD&D 2e.

Well I'll be, I stand corrected.

Mellkor
03-10-2011, 04:49 PM
Horrible idea to do this. Fire whoever thought this was a good idea.


Please bring back the class forums.

andreascott89
03-10-2011, 04:58 PM
Grab your pitchforks and follow me!!! AAAIIIIIEEEEE

:)

Honestly, I hate the changes to the class forums.

J

newandoriginalname
03-10-2011, 05:14 PM
I play a Bard and a Cleric, so clearly those two should be together in one forum.

I used to play WoW and i also play DDO, so clearly the two should be together in one forum too.

Zachski
03-10-2011, 11:58 PM
Change it back, please. I came to the Bard forums to do some chilling out and reading what others had to say, but now I'm gonna have to wade through Rogue and Ranger posts.

fabhpk
03-11-2011, 09:01 AM
/signed!!!

Cap_Man
03-11-2011, 11:12 AM
So who wants their class forums back?

I do!

This new mosh pit method is a huge step backwards.

doubledge
03-11-2011, 11:20 AM
/signed

Templarion
03-11-2011, 11:24 AM
I like the new order.

Give it time people. You will adapt.

Elaril
03-11-2011, 11:29 AM
Not me, I think chaos and the arbitrary lumping of character classes together is pretty much the way to go and will make information on specific classes much easier to parse through. I further think that Turbine should deliver the coup de grace of awesomeness and combine all the server forums together into one mega server forum to make it easier for us to have server specific discussions.

Elaril
03-11-2011, 11:31 AM
Not me, I think chaos and the arbitrary lumping of character classes together is pretty much the way to go and will make information on specific classes much easier to parse through. I further think that Turbine should deliver the coup de grace of awesomeness and combine all the server forums together into one mega server forum to make it easier for us to have server specific discussions.

Except Kyber and possibly Orien, maybe those two should be lumped together.

Xyfiel
03-11-2011, 11:39 AM
I like the new order.

Give it time people. You will adapt.

People in prison adapt, doesn't mean they like it

I want it the way it was. When researching threads, it normally is about a class, not say "caster". I could live with them separated by role easier if they want a change. Dps, Tank, Healer, Nuker, CC, Hybrid, etc makes more sense imo then putting all casters together. My "caster" wizard will break 90+ AC self buffed when his gear is done and have 20ish intelligence. What part of him is "caster"?

Thaxlsillyia
03-11-2011, 02:36 PM
:( they have un-structured the class forum in the name of restructuring it.

>_< did they take a minute to see what the final product would look like before hitting the OK button?

Oakianus
03-11-2011, 03:02 PM
Not me, I think chaos and the arbitrary lumping of character classes together is pretty much the way to go and will make information on specific classes much easier to parse through. I further think that Turbine should deliver the coup de grace of awesomeness and combine all the server forums together into one mega server forum to make it easier for us to have server specific discussions.

Best of thread.

PestWulf
03-11-2011, 05:30 PM
So their idea of making things easier for us is by obfuscating the relevant posts that we are looking for by lumping it in with other classes and having our posts get bumped off the primary page faster than ever.

right. Well. This is just simply brilliant.

Why stop here though? If lumping these classes together make sit better for us, why not just lump them all together so it's simply super fabulous. It will be real easy then as anything you could want will all be in the same place. I think Libraries should do this also as it would make sure that whenever you wanted to find a book you would always be in the proper place, no need for that crappy dewey system.

Praxian09
03-11-2011, 05:42 PM
+1







and.....




/signed

Edit:

They could at least make it "Sub-groups" if they're gonna split it up like that, and say if you're in spell casters, then make a seperate section for Wiz, Clerics, Fav Souls, and Sorcerers all while still making "General Posting" possible if you don't want to post in a specific section.

oberon131313
03-11-2011, 05:50 PM
I think it is and also with race... do you really want to wade thru every class/race to find some information or questions you may seek on building a halfling rogue/monk?

A very good example ... the last post in the "Human Forum" was this => http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=287347 ... and it now resides 7 pages down in the "Race" forum due to it's date. It "IS" the latest discusion/information on "Humans" but because it's from Dec gets burried. Also it will be pushed down further and further as the more popular races post more... eventually anyone looking for something specific to an less active topic as "Human" race or some less active class such as "Fighter" get's weeded out and falls pages and pages beyond into a place where you'll never read about it again nor get any past ideas or information on.


Let me see if I have this correct; you are upset because a topic that is 3 months old is on page 8? Really? The example you give is a perfect illustration of why the change is justified...

This change means that people will get more exposure to those lesser discussed topics.

Zachski
03-11-2011, 06:39 PM
Let me see if I have this correct; you are upset because a topic that is 3 months old is on page 8? Really? The example you give is a perfect illustration of why the change is justified...

This change means that people will get more exposure to those lesser discussed topics.

....By pushing them to a page very few people would actually read. Right.

oberon131313
03-11-2011, 06:56 PM
....By pushing them to a page very few people would actually read. Right.

If it's a topic people want to discuss, then it will have discussions. If not, then it will drop down. The simple fact that the last "active" topic on a board was 3 months ago means that it is a waste of server space.

My second point, which you seem to be arguing against, is that someone going to the "barbarian" boards will now have a chance to see what the fighters are discussing, and that environment could breed more discussion; it could also not, especially if everyone decides that it's just too much and whines about it without giving it a shot...

phalaeo
03-11-2011, 06:57 PM
Horrible idea to do this. Fire whoever thought this was a good idea.


Please bring back the class forums.

Fo' real.

The new forum layout is HORRIBLE.

Zachski
03-11-2011, 08:29 PM
If it's a topic people want to discuss, then it will have discussions. If not, then it will drop down. The simple fact that the last "active" topic on a board was 3 months ago means that it is a waste of server space.

My second point, which you seem to be arguing against, is that someone going to the "barbarian" boards will now have a chance to see what the fighters are discussing, and that environment could breed more discussion; it could also not, especially if everyone decides that it's just too much and whines about it without giving it a shot...

If I wanted to have Fighter discussion, I'd go to the Fighter forums.

If I wanted to have Barbarian discussion, I'd go to the Barbarian forums.

It was simple, effective, and un-broken.

Now? I have to wade through Fighter posts to read Barbarian posts or vice versa.

It wasn't broken before. It didn't need to be fixed.

And I'm calling Bull's Strength on the "without giving it a shot." As it stands, I don't have a choice BUT to give it a shot. I'll endure it for the time being, but this is horribly inefficient :-/

In either case, my point about your post I was replying to was that new layout accomplished the OPPOSITE of what you said. People are NOT getting more exposure to the lesser discussed topics, in fact, they are getting LESS exposure.

PestWulf
03-11-2011, 09:15 PM
I'm wondering if Turbine is trying to conserve resources by forcing everyone to find different forums. I used to spend a lot of time browsing class forums I thought I might want to play. Even if the posts were older in some cases, that was fine for me and others new to the class, seeing as how we never saw them in the first place.

Now the class forums are no longer a source of information on the class unless it's stickied. Instead it is a source of current topic discussion unless you are willing to wade through page after page of posts you don't even care about to find information. This new layout is not even remotely helpful, you don't navigate to the class forum you want any faster and you most certainly do not find threads or posts that you want to read any faster..so what exactly was the point? to force people to see irrelevant posts in the hopes they'll pop on in and have something constructive to say in a discussion they didn't care about to begin with??

It might be a different matter if they'd put all this energy into updating their Compendium...I think it's been what?, three years now that the paladin exalted smite has been missing?

Let me guess, the old forum layout will appear in the DDO store for 475 turbine points?

Twintowers6
03-15-2011, 05:06 AM
Someone else mentioned this in an earlier post, but I'm too lazy to go back and find them to quote what they had said. :P

To elaborate, it may be nice to have a broader area to look in, like if you wanted to find a max DPS build, you can look in the melee area, because of course Barbarians have the best DPS out there, but there could be a fighter one that isn't too far from the damage output that is more along the lines of what you were looking for. EVEN SO, just because it might be nice to look for max DPS builds from fighters and barbs clumped together, why in the world would they get rid of the more specific forum listings? It helped people save so much time, and truly gave people what they were looking for.

Of course, many people have stated other fairly good things that Turbine should do to improve their forums, but at the very least, bring it back to what it used to be.

And DON'T make us have to pay 475 Points for this, Turbine! ;-)

Valindria
03-15-2011, 12:08 PM
me.

I was gone a few days and hate the new structure.

SinOfWrath
03-15-2011, 01:53 PM
I don't like the new forums either. There are too many irrelevant threads to look through now.

Chai
03-15-2011, 02:04 PM
I want my daddys records back.

Sethasoigh
03-15-2011, 02:07 PM
yep i've tried for couple days and isn't as easy to use as before.

dkyle
03-15-2011, 02:30 PM
If you miss the old class forums structure, this javascript (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3642443&postcount=1) for Chrome and Firefox might help you. It basically makes the prefixes act like separate forums.

Mellkor
03-15-2011, 04:04 PM
Ok tried this new forum structure out for a few days.

Yep, I still think it is dumb. Almost as dumb as dungeon alert.

Please change it back. It is almost the most conter-intuitive forum I have ever seen.

Devs: please send me an e-mail when it is changed back. I will not be using the forums at all until it is changed back.

Thanks,

-JR

Noctus
03-15-2011, 05:43 PM
Okay, so i now tried out the new design of the Classes Subforum ...

It is clumsy
It is cluttered
The areas are filled with copletly irrelevant information i have to wade through which makes it tedious to give charbuilding help in those areas where i have experience.

The "sorted by class" divisions from before were simply more convenient to use.



I used to do a quick browsing of certain class forums when i had some in-game waitng time, but now its gotten tedious as i have to actively ignore many threads that are shown in the "lumped together" new sections.

It reminds me of the spam-emails i get.

Natashaelle
03-16-2011, 05:33 AM
I would like to add my voice to all the others saying that the new structure of the Classes forum is terrible !!

I could maybe understand putting Arcanes and Divines together into two subforums, but putting all "casters" into one great lump just doesn't make any sense !!!

And the "Specialists" sub-forum ???!!? *** ???!!?

As far as I can tell, the ONLY thing that Rangers, Rogues, and Bards have in common is that they have been grouped together in the Character Creation protocols ... and ... er .... that's it.

This is a pointless and confusing change, and does not reflect the reality of this game.

Please change back to something less silly ASAP !!!!!

rabrams99
03-16-2011, 12:47 PM
This is terrible. Change them back.

Valindria
03-16-2011, 03:55 PM
Everytime I come to the class section I get angry. I don't care about rangers or rogues. If I did I would go to their section.

I guess I could see mixing Barbs and Fighters together, mixing Wizards and Sorcs, and mixing clerics and favored souls. Bards, rogues, and rangers are so different they should have their own section. Paladin and monks are kind of similar but then again they can be like fighters. Rangers can be like fighters (tempest).


I just hate it. I hate it more than the TWF nerf.

Lerincho
03-16-2011, 03:56 PM
/not signed

let the issue go. they will not be changing it back. no sense in getting this worked up about it.

Zachski
03-17-2011, 09:47 PM
/not signed

let the issue go. they will not be changing it back. no sense in getting this worked up about it.

It's annoying and counterproductive.

If we do be quiet, then of course they won't change it back.

If we voice our disapproval, then it may just convince Turbine to change their mind and return everything to what it was before.

Non-zero chance > Zero chance.

Lerincho
03-18-2011, 08:32 AM
It's annoying and counterproductive.

If we do be quiet, then of course they won't change it back.

If we voice our disapproval, then it may just convince Turbine to change their mind and return everything to what it was before.

Non-zero chance > Zero chance.


And just because someone disagrees with you, does not give you the right to give neg rep. Neg rep is for trolling, derogatory comments, personal attacks or violations of the code of conduct. At no time in my post did it qualify for any of those remarks. Disagreement does not give right to abuse the rep system (yes despite how flawed it is).

NaturalHazard
03-18-2011, 08:36 AM
So who wants their class forums back?

I do. :(

Zachski
03-20-2011, 09:30 PM
And just because someone disagrees with you, does not give you the right to give neg rep. Neg rep is for trolling, derogatory comments, personal attacks or violations of the code of conduct. At no time in my post did it qualify for any of those remarks. Disagreement does not give right to abuse the rep system (yes despite how flawed it is).

And just because someone disagrees with someone doesn't mean they gave them neg rep.

I can't even GIVE neg rep. I don't have enough rep to do so. I am sincerely offended that you would assume I did so, as well.

karl_k0ch
03-23-2011, 05:06 PM
I want both my Bard forum back and my Rogue forum.

Valindria
03-23-2011, 05:13 PM
I want both my Bard forum back and my Rogue forum.

Agree.


I still hate the current setup.

Anthem
04-01-2011, 04:27 PM
This layout is useless.

The only class I care enough to forum about is cleric, and I'm certain clerics have more in common with fighters, monks and rangers than we do with wizzys, sorcs and souls!

KillEveryone
04-01-2011, 04:33 PM
I want the class forums back.

They are still a mess.

I feel dirty trying to wade in that area.

While I do like a certain amount of chaos, this is not fun chaos.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Bring back the class forums in their previous layout.

Irinis
04-01-2011, 04:51 PM
New players are unable to find the build advice from more experienced players.
More experienced players are unable to find threads quickly to answer questions from newer players.
This leads to more unsatisfying play experiences for both new players and vets.

The new tutorial on how to build characters is a good general start. But throwing out years of community expertise and angering the people who are HERE TO HELP OTHERS is not in any way a good idea.

But it also leads to new players having to buy hearts to fix their characters later on when they realize that their concept doesn't work in DDO reality.

So I guess it's working for Turbine, just not working for us: the customers.

I really wish Turbine would be more customer-service-centric, but I've given up on seeing that happen. It makes me sad that Turbine doesn't want my money or my support.

It also makes me really wish I had the funding to make my own game with a team of programmers, artists, writers, world builders, gameplay experts, marketers, customer service professionals, and etc.

Bobthesponge
04-01-2011, 05:00 PM
this, i mean what do healers and casters have to talk to each other about? nothing.

/notsigned

where else can i get advice on my 10 sorc/10 clr build?

Ivan_Milic
04-02-2011, 05:28 PM
It was great before,now it confusing.

Valindria
04-04-2011, 04:38 PM
I still hate it. Please change it back.

Zenako
04-04-2011, 05:13 PM
About all I can do is boycott question/threads in those merged forums. If we go and look, then those forums and threads get hits.

I still think it was a poorly thought out idea to merge them, and an even worse idea to do so without tagging all the posts of the old forums with the appropriate tag. Also if the tagging is to work, it needs to be mandatory or else it is just annoying.

Velexia
04-04-2011, 07:01 PM
I prefer the separate class forums. I don't want to bother with 'Specialists" when I am lurking in the Rogue forum.

Velexia
04-04-2011, 07:02 PM
/notsigned

where else can i get advice on my 10 sorc/10 clr build?


Advice: Delete.

Mellkor
04-05-2011, 08:42 AM
Yep I still hate the new forum layout. Still smells like a cow field on a hot humid spring day.

I am sorry if this insults whoever or whomever was responsible for this new layout. However it is equally insulting to not only myself, but to many friends I play with, that we, the end users, were not given a chance to debate the "merits" of this change.

That said:

I can see some benefit to the new layout for very general queastions only (such as: Which weapon does the most damage?). For specific classes it still sucks, for many reasons already stated here ad nauseum. For me, if the new layout also had a Build section with each class broken out under that for use for posting builds and maybe also class specific questions only (such as: Which PrE is better?), it would go a long way to fixing many of the issues myself and my friends currently have with the new layout. Also would for many of the folks who have expressed thier opinions here, at least based on the responses posted here.

I certainly do not go to these forums much anymore, and get more discouraged each time I do. Irinis said it best a few posts back:

New players are unable to find the build advice from more experienced players.
More experienced players are unable to find threads quickly to answer questions from newer players.
This leads to more unsatisfying play experiences for both new players and vets.



This is certainly true for me, and it is certainly true for almost all of my friends that i play with, and I am guessing it is true with many others.


Please change it back. if you do: Player forgive. Player forget forumgate.

skunk
04-11-2011, 12:26 PM
new forums are complete garbage, why change them for the worse. Whomever decided to do this needs fired, and sent to syberia to work on servers.

I don't even own monk of FVS, why would i care to read about them? I am not going to buy them, when they don't look fun to me. I don't want to read about them.

Return it to the old way, or let some other company run your forums for you.

Have a great day.

loki_3369
04-11-2011, 12:43 PM
I personally like this change and believe it was very well thought out. I mean, it only takes you about an hour or so to sift through all the unrelated **** regarding the classes you aren't looking for information on. This will surely lead to less copy/pasting of builds since people will become far too lazy to go through page after page trying to find a specific build. Instead we will see more diversity which is good. A great build like an 11 monk/6 sorc/3 favored soul will shine....

Half assed changes ftw! Err... I mean, great job Turbine.

Euthorcize
04-25-2011, 07:49 PM
I've been away for a while. WHY the hell did they remove the class forums? I found them incredibly useful. This was a surprisingly stupid decision. If I want information on rogues, I don't need information on rangers or bards, I only want the information on rogues.

I am a returning player. I want to make a paladin. I want to read lots of information on how paladins have changes, neat tips and so on. How is information for fighters or barbarians going to help me?

duncangolden
04-25-2011, 08:01 PM
/signed
I agree, this reworking of the "class" forums has just muddled things and made it nearly impossible to find information on specific classes on the forums.

BangsLiekWhoa
04-29-2011, 11:33 AM
/signed


It was great before,now it confusing.

^This is basically why.

REALb0r3d
04-29-2011, 11:40 AM
/signed. I was looking for information on what changes people were talking about in regards to monks for the update, and... no monk forum. So... search and pray because you can't browse within your class forum.

skarlspeedbump
04-29-2011, 02:45 PM
I am new but I agree that the specific class sections is better, easy to search through and user friendly.

stuticius
05-06-2011, 02:02 PM
/signed

SlogUK
05-06-2011, 02:55 PM
Time has not changed my opinion on this. It is still rubbish and frustrating.

Dulcimerist
05-06-2011, 03:18 PM
I'm really missing the old forum structure, too.

At least the Dwarf subforum is still there...

dkyle
05-06-2011, 03:27 PM
At least the Dwarf subforum is still there...

I don't know about Dwarf, but the Half-orc forum (http://forums.ddo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22) is alive and well.

AMDarkwolf
05-06-2011, 03:28 PM
I think its been long enough, and I still prefer the old way. They did say 'give it time' and truth is, the only reason I'm, at this time, even in the class forums is cuz i saw this on the 'recent posts' on the forum main page.


Please bring old class forums back. Now.!

Lerincho
05-06-2011, 03:37 PM
I would prefer the web-team actually FULLY fix the MyDDO and lottories problem than worrying about if the structure of the forums is appropriate.

dirk_the_daring
05-07-2011, 09:55 AM
Hands down, old format worked better for me.
When looking for Bard threads I care not for ranger or rogue discussion and would prefer not to have to wade though them to find the content I am interested in.

/signed

Kominalito
05-07-2011, 10:09 AM
signed, a thousand times, signed.

Promethie
05-07-2011, 10:43 AM
signed, a thousand plus one times

AMDarkwolf
05-07-2011, 02:57 PM
I would prefer the web-team actually FULLY fix the MyDDO and lottories problem than worrying about if the structure of the forums is appropriate.

Sure, would be a better choice, if it was.

Restructuring forums(almost ANY forum) is pretty simple. This I know from experience, as a forum mod.

Altering a webpage and fix every little error in THAT is similar to the problems it comes to bug fixing stuff ingame :P

So someone go and 're-structure' the forums again for us, thanks. Thanks in advance for the 10-15 min it'll take out of your 'sitting-on-toosh' time.

Autolycus
05-07-2011, 03:10 PM
/signed

Will it help if I sign in blood?

Payne66
05-09-2011, 03:47 PM
/Signed

kmau
05-09-2011, 03:53 PM
/signed

Valindria
05-09-2011, 04:24 PM
Everytime I am here I want it back the way it was.

Warinx
05-09-2011, 11:07 PM
wtb old forum back.
/sign

ThunderTank
05-10-2011, 06:29 AM
Signed.

hethyba
05-18-2011, 03:04 PM
/signed.

I took a break from the game, came back, and find this a very annoying, unintuitive change. What kind of benefit could this possibly provide? Making people click through multiple pages of irrelevant posts to browse information about the specific class they are looking for is just dumb. If I'm looking for monk information, barbarian threads are completely useless. If I'm looking for ranger information, what do bard threads have to do with that? I'm not seething with anger over it or anything, but this was a very silly "fix" to something that wasn't broken.

Rakian_Knight
05-18-2011, 03:18 PM
/signed

Will it help if I sign in blood?

*Tap two swamps*

http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu157/NadimoNyth/WotGC%20Pics/SignInBlood.jpg

Couldn't resist, but seriously put it back to the way it was.

DME543
05-18-2011, 03:27 PM
Signed

RobinofSpiritwood
06-08-2011, 12:55 PM
Well it's kind of hard to follow that last post... why can't people just say how they really feel :P

/signed

Zachski
06-08-2011, 05:10 PM
Good ungod that is spammy!

Vengenance
06-17-2011, 02:27 PM
signed, a thousand plus one times

What he said!

boricua_in_cali
06-22-2011, 07:33 AM
/signed

This new way it's SO confusing, when running for advice on forums for Sorcs, I don't want to find info about FvS and Clerics at the same time
Maybe agroup sorc w/wizzie, cleric w/FvS MAYBE


Aye!


Me.


Me too!


Well, I liked the class fourms. If for no other reason than when I had specific questions, or If I was building a new chatacter. I would go to the Bard page, sort results by number of posts, and read the most discussed things about the bards. Then I would sort by date, and read the most current things about bards specifically.

Now I will have to sort through ranger and rogue posts to get at what I want. Not really hard, just not as organized, and not as convient.

I see it as a step backwards, as more people play the game, there will be more class specific posts, why lump them all together?

Thats my 2cp


The thing is, this way is just OK to be, but it just isn't necessary, at all. They said they did this to be more "organized", but it simply won't be. We can get used to it, but it simply isn't needed


....

Yeah, I have to say that this was a horrible idea and I can see no legitimate reason for it at all .....All I can see is that it makes it harder to find information on your class.


This just makes things more choatic and difficult to find.


All of this.
/signed & agreed.

marshm1972
06-23-2011, 07:59 AM
I know this is a stupid question, but has anyone asked Turbine if they'd be willing to consider it?

goodspeed
06-23-2011, 07:23 PM
ah I have a question about my current class taste. Now to click on the specific sub forum to see if others take on things. Now let me just sift through to see things labled, well **** everyone doesn't lable class, well this sounds right, damn it's about a ranger, ok this one, damn a barbarian fighter., Ok maybe this... oh come on it's a palemaster pally, what about.. pure wizard with a splash of rouge?

Signed. Give me threads that are actually relevant to what im looking for. Do you guys over there just throw all your paperwork in a few piles and then dig like a dog to find something your looking for about a report? If so I am very sorry for your employee's.

Ragnarnessaja
06-27-2011, 08:21 AM
I've just come back to the game. First thing I did was navigate to the forums with the intention of looking up a few up to date character builds.

It was extremely difficult to accomplish this with the new forum boards when compared to how it used to be with each class having their own specific board.

If someone gives me the appropriate email, I'll gladly send a request in to Turbine to have them switch it back.

EDIT: I posted this thread in the Website Feedback section. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3885677#post3885677

Dark_jared
08-01-2011, 06:34 PM
Oh hell yes, bring back my class Forum. i miss clicking on Monk, and seeing nothing but things related to MOnks. And now that i am looking for Rogue ideas, i find that i muct sift through everything under the sun.

Vengenance
08-01-2011, 07:30 PM
Signed!!! Can't stand this new format.

Valindria
08-02-2011, 10:48 AM
Yeah I still hate it.

They should remove the multi-class section as well. Consider removal of the custom build section and force everything into a the class sections.

Truga
08-02-2011, 10:56 AM
I love the new settings! It's now impossible to find anything, so I need to make my own builds!

On a more serious note, yes, please bring back the class forums. A ranger has about as much in common with a bard, as a sparrow has with a sperm whale. They're both animals, and that's about it.

Fejj
08-02-2011, 11:00 AM
Yes please - Bring it back

Finding any useful information is a PIA

donfilibuster
08-02-2011, 02:42 PM
Problem is all the old threads are not prefixed, makes it useless to keep bookmarks like done here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=306063

Remus
08-05-2011, 10:24 PM
I'll sign this.

Came back to the game about a month ago, and even though there have been some very helpful people, it still is a pain to find anything.

Remus

mindlessdrone1991
08-05-2011, 10:38 PM
I like thread necros much more than I like the current state of the class forums.

/signed