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Mr_Tank
02-11-2011, 05:14 PM
What does it take to get an epic docent around here? Would like it to be useful. However right now just have one would work.

Vengeance777
02-11-2011, 05:34 PM
/signed

There's no armor for a warforged in this event. And Mabar's, aside from use as a nightshield clicky, was really only useful for casters. A docent for melee warforged would be nice.

Burdden
02-11-2011, 05:42 PM
/Signed

Sure would love a seeker docent, to compete with all the former wf now tr'd half orc barbs

QuantumFX
02-11-2011, 06:07 PM
/Signed

Sure would love a seeker docent, to compete with all the former wf now tr'd half orc barbs

How about a Seeker hat with a +15 Skill bonus?

Ashbinder
02-12-2011, 02:04 AM
What does it take to get an epic docent around here? Would like it to be useful. However right now just have one would work.

Epic Docent of Grace (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1360)
Epic Blademark's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1358)
Epic Diabolist's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1359)
Epic Red Dragonscale Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=718)
Epic Docent of Shadow (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Docent_of_Shadow)

Five epic docents available, comparable to the five current epic medium armors. There's no lack of epic docents.

BDS
02-12-2011, 02:24 AM
Most of those docents are caster based. An comparing docents to one armor type isn't really relevant since warforged can only wear docents. Would be nice to see a melee based epic docent.

wemery73
02-12-2011, 03:05 AM
/signed :)

Mr_Tank
02-12-2011, 03:14 AM
Epic Docent of Grace (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1360)
Epic Blademark's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1358)
Epic Diabolist's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1359)
Epic Red Dragonscale Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=718)
Epic Docent of Shadow (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Docent_of_Shadow)

Five epic docents available, comparable to the five current epic medium armors. There's no lack of epic docents.

You are right any one of those docents are equal to or greater than Marilith Chain (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Marilith_Chain). Or their identical counter part medium armor. Red Dragon Scale (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Red_Dragonscale_Armor) Deneith heavy chain (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Deneith_Heavy_Chain)
So that leave an event docent made for wf pail masters, a docent that gives you fom, and docent that increase the dc of your web and TTS. And two of those are also in robe form. So you are right F the toasters they have been shone to much love.

Blank_Zero
02-12-2011, 03:35 AM
Epic Docent of Grace (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1360)
Epic Blademark's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1358)
Epic Diabolist's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1359)
Epic Red Dragonscale Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=718)
Epic Docent of Shadow (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Docent_of_Shadow)

Five epic docents available, comparable to the five current epic medium armors. There's no lack of epic docents.

so, 5 docents (only one or two of which is even decent for a melee) = Epic mari chain, or the fact that Bladesmark and Red Dragon are not just for docents?

lekkus
02-12-2011, 05:07 AM
You are right any one of those docents are equal to or greater than Marilith Chain (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Marilith_Chain). Or their identical counter part medium armor. Red Dragon Scale (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Red_Dragonscale_Armor) Deneith heavy chain (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Deneith_Heavy_Chain)
So that leave an event docent made for wf pail masters, a docent that gives you fom, and docent that increase the dc of your web and TTS. And two of those are also in robe form. So you are right F the toasters they have been shone to much love.

Marilith chain (not epic) is 4 years old when WF was just not done. The WF got a DoD instead later. While it, of course, would be nice to get a nice new epic docent for my own barb WF, I don't think we have much to complain about really. Now a dwarf with epic battleaxes...

Ashbinder
02-12-2011, 05:17 AM
You get WF immunities, racial enhancements and still have a trinket slot for a bloodstone.

If you want the Marilith Seeker +10, roll a Fleshie. If you want the WF goodies, prepare to sacrifice for them.

andbr22
02-12-2011, 05:34 AM
Don't forget that MChain don't allow evasion as it is medium armor.

Irinis
02-12-2011, 06:03 AM
Most of those docents are caster based. An comparing docents to one armor type isn't really relevant since warforged can only wear docents. Would be nice to see a melee based epic docent.

2 of 5 is "most" since when?

Sure it would be nice to have a good melee docent, but it'd also be nice to have a good docent for a Sorceror... epic Docent of Shadow's boon of undeath was really only great for PM Wizard.

Krag
02-12-2011, 06:13 AM
Epic Docent of Grace (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1360)
Epic Blademark's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1358)
Epic Diabolist's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1359)
Epic Red Dragonscale Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=718)
Epic Docent of Shadow (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Docent_of_Shadow)

Five epic docents available, comparable to the five current epic medium armors. There's no lack of epic docents.

Thanks for listing all epic docents. Now everyone can see that there is only one epic docent that is not the exact copy of fleshie wearings.

Epic Docent of Grace (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1360) is the only unique epic docent. Unfortunately this docent is of a very limited use.

Philam
02-12-2011, 09:29 AM
Would love to see a Epic docent that is +7-8 Armor bonus with +2-3 plating with some additional bonuses. That might be something that I try to farm for. Right now they are all weak compared to DoD or a well farmed DT Docent.

Ph

SEMPER
02-12-2011, 11:05 AM
Marilith chain (not epic) is 4 years old when WF was just not done. The WF got a DoD instead later. While it, of course, would be nice to get a nice new epic docent for my own barb WF, I don't think we have much to complain about really. Now a dwarf with epic battleaxes...

what are you talking about with WF not being done ?? WF have been here since release, way before DQ and the marilith chain

Four20
02-12-2011, 12:12 PM
You get WF immunities, racial enhancements and still have a trinket slot for a bloodstone.

If you want the Marilith Seeker +10, roll a Fleshie. If you want the WF goodies, prepare to sacrifice for them.

is that not why we already give up 50% healing amp? I know I would like to run around in something other than DT armor jacked up with healing amp runes

then again, maybe we give up 50% healing amp to have the ability to be repaired

*shrugs*

Mr_Tank
02-12-2011, 12:36 PM
Marilith chain (not epic) is 4 years old when WF was just not done. The WF got a DoD instead later. While it, of course, would be nice to get a nice new epic docent for my own barb WF, I don't think we have much to complain about really. Now a dwarf with epic battleaxes...
Sorry I did not type epic in that comment. Thought it was self-explanatory we were talking about epic items. I obviously need to change it for you. This thread is about epic docents. Not are wf op or is there a lack of epic medium armors.

Mr_Tank
02-12-2011, 01:55 PM
Would love to see a Epic docent that is +7-8 Armor bonus with +2-3 plating with some additional bonuses. That might be something that I try to farm for. Right now they are all weak compared to DoD or a well farmed DT Docent.

Ph
Get out of hear Ph. I don’t want the thread to get deleted.

xenobite
02-12-2011, 03:24 PM
Epic Docent of Grace (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1360)
Epic Blademark's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1358)
Epic Diabolist's Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=1359)
Epic Red Dragonscale Docent (http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Items/ItemDetails.aspx?itemID=718)
Epic Docent of Shadow (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Docent_of_Shadow)

Five epic docents available, comparable to the five current epic medium armors. There's no lack of epic docents.

ehh? spock would cast you out of vulcanschool so fast...
there IS a lack of epic docents, hell id say there's a lack of docents in general
but lets focus on the lvl20 ones for now.
there are 18 epic armors and 8 epic robes(according to the itemwiki).
Removing the red dragon armors and all other armors that have a
docent counterpart leaves us with 19 epic fleshwear and only one
unique docent: the docent of grace;
the ability to not have to roll a save when your buddy casts grease in
shroud is definitely equal to or greater then +10 seeker right?

I'm not saying there should be more unique docents,
personally im fine with them releasing a docent counterpart for
every armor as with bladesmark and diabolist among others
(kinda bleh that they skipped garments of equilibrium though)
but you stating theres no lack of docents isnt really true.

Philam
02-12-2011, 04:14 PM
Get out of hear Ph. I don’t want the thread to get deleted.

Now thats just rude!

/reported

Ph

BDS
02-12-2011, 04:42 PM
2 of 5 is "most" since when?

Sure it would be nice to have a good melee docent, but it'd also be nice to have a good docent for a Sorceror... epic Docent of Shadow's boon of undeath was really only great for PM Wizard.

Of the 5 I would only even consider wearing the Epic Red and Blademarks on one of my melees and Blademarks would only be if I didn't have higher DR already. That and I wouldn't count epic red as just a melee based docent since it can be useful for both melee and casters.

I'll give it to you that a sorc docent would be nice however.