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Tsuarok
11-10-2010, 06:43 AM
So, mountain stance seems to be aimed at tanking, but many of the features of it are a bit useless, particularly the dr at cap and the ki gain when critically hit.

I was thinking that to increase it's usefulness that it should provide a bonus to hate generation, maybe something along the lines of:

Lesser 115%
Mountain 130%
Greater 145%
Greatest 160%

Of course the numbers are somewhat arbitrary; the increase in hate generation is the important part.

Thoughts?

Pagan420
11-10-2010, 07:02 AM
stun stance is my fave, mountain is like defensive, but its special does seem good against earth elementals

Angellica
11-10-2010, 07:10 AM
Silly, Mountain is good for Mountain 3,4,Fists,finisher......BUT it is fun to tank in mountain stance with Guards....

Tsuarok
11-10-2010, 07:19 AM
I know the strikes are great. I wasn't discussing them, I was just referring to the stance. And I see little reason to use it as it is. I suppose that the dr is nice before you hit 20, but at that point the +40 HPs just doesn't seem worth it compared to sun or wind.

Edit: And I really wasn't trying to improve earth stance just to equalize it with Sun or Wind. I felt that monks lack a threat modifier, which could be useful to the class. Earth stance seemed the best place to add said modifier since it is obviously tanking oriented.

Jaid314
11-10-2010, 12:24 PM
yeah, the stance itself could use a buff, i'll agree to that. dr/- is nice up until you get dr/epic of a greater value, pretty much. now, if the DR for the stance was made higher once you get the capstone, it would be much more interesting...

Tsuarok
11-10-2010, 04:39 PM
shameless self bump:o

manfredshw
11-10-2010, 10:59 PM
it;s time to buff all stances a little.

waterboytkd
11-11-2010, 10:37 PM
it;s time to buff all stances a little.

even wind?

Timber
11-11-2010, 10:45 PM
it;s time to buff all stances a little.

Buff Earth and Water maybe. But i don't think Fire or Wind need anything done to them.

Doxmaster
11-14-2010, 10:36 PM
Warning. I understand DR does not stack.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why they didn't make earth stances stack with the monk capstone.

sirdanile
11-14-2010, 10:50 PM
Fire could use a teeny bit of buffage as well, Whats the point in using the third tier sun stance over the 1st tier? Oh right... +1 str. of course.

rodallec
11-14-2010, 11:56 PM
if earth stance stacked with lvl20 DR it would be alot more viable?
maybe OP?

sephiroth1084
11-15-2010, 12:07 AM
Maybe change the stance to provide X DR and X-Y DR that stacks with all other DR you have? For example, the stance could provide DR 8/- and a stacking DR 2 that would add to your DR 10/epic.

The hate generation sounds nice, but would it be enough to warrant losing the extra DPS from Sun or Wind?

manfredshw
11-15-2010, 03:08 AM
Windstance is a **** under this update7.
Only good when solo, you do not have to drink haste potions like mad.

Jaid314
11-15-2010, 02:44 PM
Fire could use a teeny bit of buffage as well, Whats the point in using the third tier sun stance over the 1st tier? Oh right... +1 str. of course.

more ki on a crit. and if you're not critting that often, then might i suggest that you are not stunning often enough?

sirdanile
11-15-2010, 07:04 PM
more ki on a crit. and if you're not critting that often, then might i suggest that you are not stunning often enough?

Hm, I thought that was the crane that did that?

Anyway It's not a big enough incentive as I got enough ki for a dark monk in wind stance without crane to spam every fist attack without stopping including ToD

Jaid314
11-15-2010, 07:23 PM
crane also does that. fire stance grants a bonus to strength (penalty to wis), +1 ki on a regular hit, and extra bonus ki on a critical hit. crane just grants the bonus ki on a critical, but not on a regular hit.