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Xionanx
06-10-2010, 04:13 AM
Yeah, this may sound crazy but hear me out.

First, you have to be level 20 to do an Epic in the First place.
Second, you have to have both the item and all the materials to make it epic.
Third, it is naturally "Bound" to the character.

So why make them minimum level 20 to use?:confused: Here's why I ask. I tend to reincarnate my characters, as such I DONT run epic content because frankly I just dont see the reason to if all the gear I wouldn't be able to use until I am once again level 20, at which point I'll TR again.

So... if the ML of "Epic" items were say 1 (ONE) I would be EXTREMELY and GREATLY encouraged to run epics and get the epic gear, because when I re-incarnate I would be able to use that awesome gear I worked so hard for.

Yes, it WOULD be overpowered, but to be honest its not like a 36 PT build with all the past life feats isn't already imbalanced, it would be just one more nice treat to use while leveling through the low levels again.

Its not like there isn't a precedent for it. Just think of all those console games with "New Game+" mode that lets you keep your gear and play through again. TR a character is in effect "New Game+" mode.

Just a thought to encourage others like myself to actually stay 20 for a while and run epics.;)

FluffyCalico
06-10-2010, 04:19 AM
So why make them minimum level 20 to use?:

Technically you should need to be 21 to even enter the quest...

BurningDownTheHouse
06-10-2010, 04:28 AM
Yeah, this may sound crazy but hear me out.

First, you have to be level 20 to do an Epic in the First place.
Second, you have to have both the item and all the materials to make it epic.
Third, it is naturally "Bound" to the character.

So why make them minimum level 20 to use?:confused: Here's why I ask. I tend to reincarnate my characters, as such I DONT run epic content because frankly I just dont see the reason to if all the gear I wouldn't be able to use until I am once again level 20, at which point I'll TR again.

So... if the ML of "Epic" items were say 1 (ONE) I would be EXTREMELY and GREATLY encouraged to run epics and get the epic gear, because when I re-incarnate I would be able to use that awesome gear I worked so hard for.

Yes, it WOULD be overpowered, but to be honest its not like a 36 PT build with all the past life feats isn't already imbalanced, it would be just one more nice treat to use while leveling through the low levels again.

Its not like there isn't a precedent for it. Just think of all those console games with "New Game+" mode that lets you keep your gear and play through again. TR a character is in effect "New Game+" mode.

Just a thought to encourage others like myself to actually stay 20 for a while and run epics.;)

Let me get this straight:
You want to be able to use things like epic SoS, red dragon armor etc. at level 1?
You want the minimum level for the epic version to be lower than the min level of the original item?
Right. :rolleyes:

sirgog
06-10-2010, 04:34 AM
I'd be happy with removing the min level to enter Epic dungeons.

But picture this scenario for the items:

My alt wins a SoS in a lowbie Dragon raid.

I go to the account bank and pull out its shard, seal and scroll and make the epic SoS at level 10.

The SoS is broken at level 10 even without +3d6 damage and +5 to-hit and damage...

epochofcrepuscule
06-10-2010, 04:36 AM
That would be awesome!

Level 1-all my epic gear granted! No longer shall i need to swap gear as my TR levels up. I feel sorry for the pugs I bring along as my ac is sitting in the 60's unbuffed at level 1. Red Alert here we come!

Let the griefing begin!!

Oh, wait.. thats not helping this thread is it?

Xionanx
06-10-2010, 04:44 AM
That would be awesome!

Level 1-all my epic gear granted! No longer shall i need to swap gear as my TR levels up. I feel sorry for the pugs I bring along as my ac is sitting in the 60's unbuffed at level 1. Red Alert here we come!

Let the griefing begin!!

Oh, wait.. thats not helping this thread is it?

:p

Still, thats exactly what I would be doing.. well, minus the griefing part that is.

I mean think about it.

As a TR I am REQUIRED to start at level 1, then if I dont want to run out of XP I am REQUIRED to repeatedly run the same lame quests 10+ times on normal... it gets OLD fast. After TR'ing 3x I think having some nice epic weapons to level with would make the experience a little more enjoyable.:D

Lleren
06-10-2010, 05:01 AM
Oh my.

You don't far enough.

Simply remove all minimum levels from any Bound to Character Gear =D

Even the stuff that is just Bound to Character from the Stone of Change ritual.

TR happiness all around.

and happy alts too!.

Xionanx
06-10-2010, 05:24 AM
Oh my.

You don't far enough.

Simply remove all minimum levels from any Bound to Character Gear =D

Even the stuff that is just Bound to Character from the Stone of Change ritual.

TR happiness all around.

and happy alts too!.

True, once its "Bound to Character" minimum level should no longer matter.:D

vVAnjilaVv
06-10-2010, 05:59 AM
/absolutely not signed.......in quadruplicate.

Nott
06-10-2010, 06:15 AM
Worst idea I've seen posted in a long time. This would quickly remove all challenge from the game for many people. Many others would quit playing out of frustration of not being able to keep up.

Greydeath
06-10-2010, 08:28 AM
Yeah, this may sound crazy but hear me out.

First, you have to be level 20 to do an Epic in the First place.
Second, you have to have both the item and all the materials to make it epic.
Third, it is naturally "Bound" to the character.

So why make them minimum level 20 to use?:confused: Here's why I ask. I tend to reincarnate my characters, as such I DONT run epic content because frankly I just dont see the reason to if all the gear I wouldn't be able to use until I am once again level 20, at which point I'll TR again.

So... if the ML of "Epic" items were say 1 (ONE) I would be EXTREMELY and GREATLY encouraged to run epics and get the epic gear, because when I re-incarnate I would be able to use that awesome gear I worked so hard for.

Yes, it WOULD be overpowered, but to be honest its not like a 36 PT build with all the past life feats isn't already imbalanced, it would be just one more nice treat to use while leveling through the low levels again.

Its not like there isn't a precedent for it. Just think of all those console games with "New Game+" mode that lets you keep your gear and play through again. TR a character is in effect "New Game+" mode.

Just a thought to encourage others like myself to actually stay 20 for a while and run epics.;)

/signed
LONG overdue

Crazyfruit
06-10-2010, 12:19 PM
I'd love to see them at level 19 minimum for the TR people, and the junkier ones even lower.