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Henrieta
03-03-2010, 10:18 AM
When a player puts loot up for roll and you win, consider saying "Thank you" to them.
Maybe even say THANK YOU!!!!

DoctorWhofan
03-03-2010, 10:20 AM
or thanks dude or mahalo or... sigh. politiness is dead, sadly. :( I fight my polite battles on bigger things, unfortunally.

Henrieta
03-03-2010, 10:24 AM
Also, instead of just dropping after a quest/raid is complete, I usually find it's appropriate to say "thanks for the group"! (sometimes even trainwrecks are enjoyable).

Diarden
03-03-2010, 10:26 AM
Why should I thank you for getting me loot? For handing me loot? I was the reason YOU were successful in that raid. If it wasn't for me, Shroud would never be completed, on any server. I am the bomb-diggidy...


/sarcasm off

Kadran
03-03-2010, 10:30 AM
Next time just loot it yourself, or pass it to a guildie/friend. Even if you cannot/will not use it, you never know what the epic version will be like. Or you might need it once you TR. ;-)

Kaervas
03-03-2010, 10:34 AM
I've never had this problem so far, everyone I've grouped with has been very polite when they obtain a drop that someone else pulled. Maybe I am just lucky.

petegunn
03-03-2010, 10:35 AM
Lack of social skills, low intelligence, poor upbringing who knows just a general snapshot of the society we all live in nowdays.

Henrieta
03-03-2010, 10:43 AM
A few months ago I put a torc up for roll. A ranger loots it and immediately drops group afterwards. Not a word.

Maybe they were happy on the inside.

Arlith
03-03-2010, 10:54 AM
A few months ago I put a torc up for roll. A ranger loots it and immediately drops group afterwards. Not a word.

Maybe they were happy on the inside.

That is a long time to hold a grudge.

+1 for reminding me why I don't miss my ex.

Diarden
03-03-2010, 10:56 AM
A few months ago I put a torc up for roll. A ranger loots it and immediately drops group afterwards. Not a word.

Maybe they were happy on the inside.

Holy ****, that would **** me off to high heaven... but not as much as this.

I was in a Hound run with my tank. We went in on Elite, and I was chew toy. We ended up wiping, and decided to start over on Hard. I give 6 Major mneumonic pots to the wizard who was burning through SP dealing with CC and reconstructing me. After 10 minutes of battling, we finished the raid. GG us. Loot the end chest, and the only raid item that dropped was the Tumbleweed.

Melee begin rolling. Since I have my Circle of Hatred and Cinders Band, my ring slots are full up and have no use for it, but I decide to stick around anyhow to see who wins. After everyone had rolled (and most of the melee had sub-par rolls) the Sorc and Wizard both roll, and each get the highest rolls. Now, I become quite confused as to why the Sorc and Wizzy both roll on the ring beating out the other melee.

Their response? They needed it for the tumble bonus. A tumble bonus? That's the best you can do?

Granted, it's the person who got the ring in the chests fault for passing the ring to the wizard in the first place, but people who are so ungrateful and self-serving to think that every item in a raid can be used in their build just ****es me off. Can a wizard use a 6 dex ring? Sure, buy one in the AH. Does a wizzy need +2 attack bonus? Maybe, if they had some melee capacity, I could see that. Does a wizard need a tumble bonus on an item? Why? You got the friggin spell at level 1!


It's not my place to say who can have what in a build, but understand that the raid consists of 12 people. Every single person there is vying for some type of loot, not just you.

Needless to say, that wiz and sorc will NEVER be in any of my raids ever again (and they do raid a lot).

Kaervas
03-03-2010, 11:07 AM
Holy ****, that would **** me off to high heaven... but not as much as this.

I was in a Hound run with my tank. We went in on Elite, and I was chew toy. We ended up wiping, and decided to start over on Hard. I give 6 Major mneumonic pots to the wizard who was burning through SP dealing with CC and reconstructing me. After 10 minutes of battling, we finished the raid. GG us. Loot the end chest, and the only raid item that dropped was the Tumbleweed.

Melee begin rolling. Since I have my Circle of Hatred and Cinders Band, my ring slots are full up and have no use for it, but I decide to stick around anyhow to see who wins. After everyone had rolled (and most of the melee had sub-par rolls) the Sorc and Wizard both roll, and each get the highest rolls. Now, I become quite confused as to why the Sorc and Wizzy both roll on the ring beating out the other melee.

Their response? They needed it for the tumble bonus. A tumble bonus? That's the best you can do?

Granted, it's the person who got the ring in the chests fault for passing the ring to the wizard in the first place, but people who are so ungrateful and self-serving to think that every item in a raid can be used in their build just ****es me off. Can a wizard use a 6 dex ring? Sure, buy one in the AH. Does a wizzy need +2 attack bonus? Maybe, if they had some melee capacity, I could see that. Does a wizard need a tumble bonus on an item? Why? You got the friggin spell at level 1!


It's not my place to say who can have what in a build, but understand that the raid consists of 12 people. Every single person there is vying for some type of loot, not just you.

Needless to say, that wiz and sorc will NEVER be in any of my raids ever again (and they do raid a lot).

I'm not supporting that wiz or sorc in any way, but I'd just like to point out that the Tumble spell stacks with tumble from items. It grants a +10 enhancement bonus, and it also doesn't increase with level like the Jump spell does.
Skill items grant a competence bonus in 99.9% of cases (rare exceptions include the Ventilated Bracers from the Reaver's Fate raid).

It still doesn't excuse their reasoning one jot, they were completely in the wrong.

Diarden
03-03-2010, 11:10 AM
I'm not supporting that wiz or sorc in any way, but I'd just like to point out that the Tumble spell stacks with tumble from items. It grants a +10 enhancement bonus, and it also doesn't increase with level like the Jump spell does.
Skill items grant a competence bonus in 99.9% of cases (rare exceptions include the Ventilated Bracers from the Reaver's Fate raid).

It still doesn't excuse their reasoning one jot, they were completely in the wrong.

If you're bidding on a Tumbleweed for the +10 tumble skill, buy a friggin +15 tumble ring from the AH. Don't screw over the other people in the raid.

Hell, a wizard or sorc can cast Haste (40% running speed boost) and Featherfall, so get some 15 tumble boots.

Sir_Chonas
03-03-2010, 11:11 AM
When a player puts loot up for roll and you win, consider saying "Thank you" to them.
Maybe even say THANK YOU!!!!

Fank you for calling to the front my horrible, debilitating, cripplingly embarrassing speech impediment.

Kaervas
03-03-2010, 11:12 AM
If you're bidding on a Tumbleweed for the +10 tumble skill, buy a friggin +15 tumble ring from the AH. Don't screw over the other people in the raid.

Hell, a wizard or sorc can cast Haste (40% running speed boost) and Featherfall, so get some 15 tumble boots.

You didn't even read what I typed, did you?

Sirea
03-03-2010, 11:23 AM
If you're bidding on a Tumbleweed for the +10 tumble skill, buy a friggin +15 tumble ring from the AH. Don't screw over the other people in the raid.

Hell, a wizard or sorc can cast Haste (40% running speed boost) and Featherfall, so get some 15 tumble boots.

Tumbleweed is probably one of the most common drops out of Hound. Most of the runs I'm in when it drops no one rolls and it ends up getting vendored.

Superspeed_Hi5
03-03-2010, 11:44 AM
Next time just loot it yourself, or pass it to a guildie/friend. Even if you cannot/will not use it, you never know what the epic version will be like. Or you might need it once you TR. ;-)

This is terrible advice. I see this alot these days.

I guess it depends on the guild but I know my guild puts it up for roll and does not exclude puggers because they helped also, and therefore deserve a chance at loot like anyone else.

Looting something because you may or may not TR is one of the worst things you can do. Either you are or you are not dont loot something that you arent going to use right away or at least part of that character as they are nows end game plan. Theres no reason to loot a Lorricks Shield on a pure monk theres no reason to loot a ring of thelis on a rogue yet you will see people do that. Saw a sorc loot a battelcleric belt instead of giving it to the battlecleric and that was right after I gave the sorc the wild mage belt. Needless to say I wont be grouping with that guy again.

Phidius
03-03-2010, 12:03 PM
A few months ago I put a torc up for roll. A ranger loots it and immediately drops group afterwards. Not a word.

Maybe they were happy on the inside.

Can't say I blame them, considering how the next few posts after yours went. They probably just wanted to avoid the flaming they were sure was going to come their way.

I run the DQ on my casters fairly regularly, but wouldn't begrdudge anyone who had a blue bar and access to healing spells.

If a non-blue-bar pulls the Torc in a group that I'm in, that's OK too... they just lost out on a chance to get some stuff they could actually use, as I'm 100% certain someone in the group could outbid the bartender.

Diarden
03-03-2010, 02:05 PM
You didn't even read what I typed, did you?

Sorry, I will be more clear next time, I was reinforcing your point. Sorry, both our posts went hand in hand, figured you would get it.

Kaervas
03-03-2010, 02:10 PM
Sorry, I will be more clear next time, I was reinforcing your point. Sorry, both our posts went hand in hand, figured you would get it.

Yep, I read that post as a direct response to me and couldn't figure out the ire behind it.
Knowing that it isn't directed at me makes a lot more sense, sorry that I misinterpreted it.

Diarden
03-03-2010, 02:12 PM
Yep, I read that post as a direct response to me and couldn't figure out the ire behind it.
Knowing that it isn't directed at me makes a lot more sense, sorry that I misinterpreted it.

Its okay. There's this rumor going around that I'm some a-hole, and I just don't get it. I try and be the nicest guy you'd meet. If I ever find the guy spreading those rumors, I'm gonna rip out his spleen.

techwench
03-03-2010, 02:25 PM
or thanks dude or mahalo or... sigh. politiness is dead, sadly. :( I fight my polite battles on bigger things, unfortunally.

Mahalo means "trash", right? :p

/derail on

Sorry, couldn't resist. I grew up in Hawaii, but when my husband first got stationed there, he thought it really meant "trash" it was written on all of the trash cans.

/derail off

Clay
03-04-2010, 10:35 AM
arigatou

Diarden
03-04-2010, 10:42 AM
Arigato Gozaimasu...

Giddlypip
03-04-2010, 10:57 AM
Yeah that stuff is pretty annoying.

I had been running titan religously and hadn't seen the gloves even hit the chest until after about 20 collective runs through my guys... But anyway, we finally get a pair and they're up for roll, and the monk immediately rolls a 99... I almost commented on "aw man wasted a good roll". But I didn't feel like talking and in the end, the monk was serious and the dude actually passed em to the monk. I know any character can have UMD but it just seems like a waste. The monk (with a base 8 con) could reach a MAX of like 31 umd with a shroud +6 item, which I doubt he had. It just ****ed everyone off because we had lots of arcanes/rogues/bards that could actually have the possibility of no fail heal scrolls and the like. Pretty annoying!

Pip

Gunga
03-04-2010, 11:04 AM
Thank you.

NWNfan1
03-04-2010, 11:07 AM
I guess it IS pretty hard for them to say "thank you". People just want to play the game and obtain rare loot. They don't care about being polite anymore (in fact, I don't think anyone has every cared about being polite at all). You should get to know the people in your group. Maybe if you do that, they'll actually say "thanks guys". Or at least they might say "thanks (your name)". ;)

Superspeed_Hi5
03-04-2010, 03:15 PM
Yeah that stuff is pretty annoying.

I had been running titan religously and hadn't seen the gloves even hit the chest until after about 20 collective runs through my guys... But anyway, we finally get a pair and they're up for roll, and the monk immediately rolls a 99... I almost commented on "aw man wasted a good roll". But I didn't feel like talking and in the end, the monk was serious and the dude actually passed em to the monk. I know any character can have UMD but it just seems like a waste. The monk (with a base 8 con) could reach a MAX of like 31 umd with a shroud +6 item, which I doubt he had. It just ****ed everyone off because we had lots of arcanes/rogues/bards that could actually have the possibility of no fail heal scrolls and the like. Pretty annoying!

Pip

You lie - everyone knows that the only loot that drops ont titan is the Docent but only when there are no Toasters present. yea....

Cyr
03-04-2010, 03:22 PM
If a non-blue-bar pulls the Torc in a group that I'm in, that's OK too... they just lost out on a chance to get some stuff they could actually use, as I'm 100% certain someone in the group could outbid the bartender.

You shouldn't be 100% certain that they are not getting exactly what they wanted from the raid. They could be on the path to 'win ddo'.

Phidius
03-04-2010, 03:29 PM
You shouldn't be 100% certain that they are not getting exactly what they wanted from the raid. They could be on the path to 'win ddo'.

Very true - I should have said "actually use on their current build" :D

Henrieta
03-04-2010, 03:44 PM
Thank you.

No, No. Thank you

Quikster
03-04-2010, 03:57 PM
This is terrible advice. I see this alot these days.

I guess it depends on the guild but I know my guild puts it up for roll and does not exclude puggers because they helped also, and therefore deserve a chance at loot like anyone else.

Looting something because you may or may not TR is one of the worst things you can do. Either you are or you are not dont loot something that you arent going to use right away or at least part of that character as they are nows end game plan. Theres no reason to loot a Lorricks Shield on a pure monk theres no reason to loot a ring of thelis on a rogue yet you will see people do that. Saw a sorc loot a battelcleric belt instead of giving it to the battlecleric and that was right after I gave the sorc the wild mage belt. Needless to say I wont be grouping with that guy again.

I disagree. If I plan on tr'ing an alt, even several times, and something I see drops for what I plan my final build to be, Im going to take it. I dont care that your build can use it now (for the most part).

What I wont do is take something when someone else can make better use for it so I can wear it on a build I do plan on tr'ing. Say I make a wizard with the intention of tr'ing to a barb. I wouldnt take the torc for one life, or even 2 lives unless that item is part of my final build. Unless nobody else wants it blah blah. But I see no reason to not try to get something that I plan on using all the time in a build, or is part of my build, even if that build wont be able to use it for a life or two. IMO there is no difference if I am making a build around a piece of loot why shouldnt I loot it?


Also blacklisting someone for taking an amrath belt is a little petty. Many of the runs im in those things are left in the chest, or someone loots em for vendor trash. Yes it may be indicative of their looting practice, its just a poor example imo.

Ultimately, YLYC

ghettoGenius
03-04-2010, 04:00 PM
Sorry but that Tumbleweed example is pretty poor.

Think about it this way. If that wiz had a +10 tumble ring equipped and +6 dex boots (for whatever reason), then does it not stand to reason that Tumbleweed would effectively free up a item slot? The +2 to hit is just gravy, and I know many casters that sometimes use a melee weapon to finish off trash when they're trying to save SP.

Regardless, don't fault other players for wanting to make their characters stronger - especially since that is pretty much a main objective of the game.