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Dradle
11-04-2009, 01:17 PM
http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/The_Permadeath_Guild

Rules are simple....

1. No P.U.G. (PickUp Group) outside ally permadeath guilds after Level 4
2. You can only be resurrected from spells, items & non DDO Store Cakes. No Rez Shrines or DDO Store Items.
3. You can only resurrected a total of 1/2 your level.

If you would like to join, and you are not over level 4. do a search for any guildmembers for an invite.

EAB
11-04-2009, 01:30 PM
The problem with this is that until you can make a character that plays on a Permadeath Server that the game enforces you can't honestly believe that people will play by the rules. How do you know they didn't buy at item from an ALT? They could just say the soloed it or bought it from the AH and farmed enough gold. While I think DDO is hard enough and it's not necessary to make the game harder then it is; I still respect this play style. I just find some thing very difficult to enforce that relies on the honesty of some one.

Dradle
11-04-2009, 02:01 PM
Trust

EAB
11-04-2009, 02:08 PM
Good luck with that. :)

Impaqt
11-04-2009, 02:10 PM
Seriously, Whats the point of playing permadeath if your going to cheat yourself? Its like Unlocking God Mode in DOOM and then bragging to your friends that you Beat it....

Dikembe
11-04-2009, 03:05 PM
Good luck with that. :)

You obviously have never played PD. If you want to play PD you do it. The Officers and Guild Leaders of PD guilds do not have to police the members... they came there with the commitment to do it.

kafrielveddicus
11-04-2009, 03:40 PM
You obviously have never played PD. If you want to play PD you do it. The Officers and Guild Leaders of PD guilds do not have to police the members... they came there with the commitment to do it.

/signed

Although, I can honestly say I have policed players before, it is very easy, a toon called BAEbackwards has been advancing his character hard and quickly picking up amazing gear along the way, running all kinds of challenging quests, yet when I grouped with him, he lacked skill and many of the tactics needed to survive in permadeath not to mention his builds are gimped. So, I watch him go into proof is in the poison solo with his level 4 pure Barbarian weilding a great axe (LOL), I wait and watch the guild page in the social panel, wait patiently, then his toon goes direct from the quest to the Leaky Dingy. Shortly after I send a tell, "How did proof is in the poison go, did you die?", he replies "NO, I recalled", I respond with the Remove from Guild button!!!!!!!!!!!

New players dont think it can be policed but it can easily be policed, not that it needs to because 99% of the players that play permadeathare there for the challenge of the playstyle and want to abide by the guild rules!!!

KwaiLoCDN
11-04-2009, 03:41 PM
I joined as soon as I was logged in, as I wanted to see what a PD guild was like. I played pnp for many years, thought it has also been years since I have played. I wanted to have the same feeling for my character that I had then.

I am really looking forward to being at the edge of my seat playing a game.

mickey2toes
11-04-2009, 07:15 PM
I just started my toon "Kwiksand" on Orien today (like everyone else) and I would like to play PD on this server.

I will look for you in game, and if you see me please invite.

Thanks and happy gaming

tuksonrider
11-05-2009, 03:15 AM
Looking for a PD guild on this server.

Goba is my character name, level 1 rogue currently.

Zlingerdark
11-05-2009, 09:31 AM
/signed

Although, I can honestly say I have policed players before, it is very easy, a toon called BAEbackwards has been advancing his character hard and quickly picking up amazing gear along the way, running all kinds of challenging quests, yet when I grouped with him, he lacked skill and many of the tactics needed to survive in permadeath not to mention his builds are gimped. So, I watch him go into proof is in the poison solo with his level 4 pure Barbarian weilding a great axe (LOL), I wait and watch the guild page in the social panel, wait patiently, then his toon goes direct from the quest to the Leaky Dingy. Shortly after I send a tell, "How did proof is in the poison go, did you die?", he replies "NO, I recalled", I respond with the Remove from Guild button!!!!!!!!!!!

New players dont think it can be policed but it can easily be policed, not that it needs to because 99% of the players that play permadeathare there for the challenge of the playstyle and want to abide by the guild rules!!!

As for the rules, is it ok to keep your character's name and carry it over from death to death? I do not mind having to start over at level 1, but I really get attached my chosen name! I would love to work with PD rules, but would certainly not like losing a name to obscurity. Or is there a rule that disallows this?

Thanks!

Stroen
11-05-2009, 09:41 AM
I too am interested in allowance for reusing toon names. Also what are the rules regarding equipment? Trade and quest loot only? Auction houses off limits? Seems loot farming could be an issue.

OzmarDDO
11-05-2009, 09:45 AM
As for the rules, is it ok to keep your character's name and carry it over from death to death? I do not mind having to start over at level 1, but I really get attached my chosen name! I would love to work with PD rules, but would certainly not like losing a name to obscurity. Or is there a rule that disallows this?

Thanks!

I see a lot of people add surnames to their character, followed by I, II, III, etc... for subsequent re-rolls. I do this as well, hence I have Ozzara Shiningswords II, and Ozzforged Beta, to give two examples of re-rolled characters.

I think that is pretty common.

OP: I am interested. I love PD play, and seem to find myself making at least a couple characters on each server. What is the name of your PD Guild on Orien?

-Ozmar the Permadeather

OzmarDDO
11-05-2009, 09:50 AM
The problem with this is that until you can make a character that plays on a Permadeath Server that the game enforces you can't honestly believe that people will play by the rules. How do you know they didn't buy at item from an ALT? They could just say the soloed it or bought it from the AH and farmed enough gold. While I think DDO is hard enough and it's not necessary to make the game harder then it is; I still respect this play style. I just find some thing very difficult to enforce that relies on the honesty of some one.

IME, trust works just fine. As an honor system; therefore the guild attracts the honorable. That's one of the things I like about it.

I've had several chars die while solo, and while I admit to being tempted to just "overlook" that one... ultimately PD for me is about the challenge and victory, and having a L-5 character that has never died is a hollow victory if the "never died" part isn't really true.

(And if others cheat, that doesn't affect me. I trust them to play with honor.)

I think your cynicism is misplaced. You can honestly trust others to play by the rules, because that's the whole point! If you didn't want to play by these rules, well then, don't play PD style. Your attitude probably just shows that PD isn't really your thing, and that's fine. Have fun playing the game your own way.

I have some non-PD chars, but I find that the PD style and challenge is far more enjoyable.

-Ozmar the Permadeather

Dradle
11-05-2009, 12:47 PM
As for the rules, is it ok to keep your character's name and carry it over from death to death? I do not mind having to start over at level 1, but I really get attached my chosen name! I would love to work with PD rules, but would certainly not like losing a name to obscurity. Or is there a rule that disallows this?

Thanks!


you can always keep your name, when you die just remake a new toon with your name.

All of my PD toons have Chad in the name

Dradle
11-05-2009, 12:52 PM
I too am interested in allowance for reusing toon names. Also what are the rules regarding equipment? Trade and quest loot only? Auction houses off limits? Seems loot farming could be an issue.

Any and All item, Quest, Potions.... Except Rez Shrines and Rez (store bought) Shrines/NPCs are allowed. Also you can twink PD character or buy stuff from AH.

Most real loot is bound to character, so have at it.

Dradle
11-05-2009, 12:57 PM
What is the name of your PD Guild on Orien?

-Ozmar the Permadeather

Guildname :The Permadeath Guild
Guildleader: Permadeath Guild Leader
Guildbanker: Guildbank for The PermadeathGuild
Guildwebsite: http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/The_Permadeath_Guild

KwaiLoCDN
11-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Well, trying to run Durk's with two guild mates today, Kwai Lo died.

/I think I'm the first casualty.

Shamurai
11-05-2009, 02:43 PM
you can always keep your name, when you die just remake a new toon with your name.

All of my PD toons have Chad in the name


Doood that's my name.. but I don't like it so much IRL, so no toon name conflice between me and you.

Mazeratti
11-05-2009, 03:09 PM
The problem with this is that until you can make a character that plays on a Permadeath Server that the game enforces you can't honestly believe that people will play by the rules. How do you know they didn't buy at item from an ALT? They could just say the soloed it or bought it from the AH and farmed enough gold. While I think DDO is hard enough and it's not necessary to make the game harder then it is; I still respect this play style. I just find some thing very difficult to enforce that relies on the honesty of some one.

Who are they fooling though? Only themselves.

PD for me is a self challenge, I need no-one watching over me. When I hit my goal lvl, from not cheating, I feel like I have achieved something.

I have a non-guild imposed challenge I have given myself, and that is no raise whatsoever.

I have got a toon to 1/2 rank away from LVL 11 no raise whatsoever, my goal is 12 and then 1750 favour.... the reason - the prize, self satisfaction.

DoyleL
11-05-2009, 06:20 PM
*removed*

Dradle
11-06-2009, 12:31 PM
Edited my rules alittle. Feel free to leave comments

Rayredrage
11-07-2009, 10:42 AM
Good luck with the New Guild, Chad! I can already see your off to a great start. I'm trying to create my own niche but you may see me on Orion, if things don't work out. It would be great to run with you again. Seeya in game.

Ray

Adarin
11-10-2009, 11:24 AM
I would be interested in this, but I'd be starting a new toon. Anyone able to do Korthos with me? I am home around 4 EST most days and play until 6. What does the guild need for class makeup? (I imagine clerics and rogues?)

Foreboding
11-12-2009, 04:23 PM
I love the PD idea, cheers to you all for having the heart to do it. I simply do not play enough to restart often! Good luck to you hard core realists tho!

Nurrun
11-13-2009, 11:41 AM
I'll be keeping an eye on the who list to ask for an invite. Sounds like a great way to play.

-nur

Phoenix818
11-14-2009, 04:26 PM
I keep trying to catch someone online to invite my healer, and haven't yet managed to. I think it's because I'm on her mostly at night (EST). Will look for you some more today though.

parvo
12-19-2009, 01:01 PM
The problem with this is that until you can make a character that plays on a Permadeath Server that the game enforces you can't honestly believe that people will play by the rules. How do you know they didn't buy at item from an ALT? They could just say the soloed it or bought it from the AH and farmed enough gold. While I think DDO is hard enough and it's not necessary to make the game harder then it is; I still respect this play style. I just find some thing very difficult to enforce that relies on the honesty of some one.

Few players treat PD as if it's a competition. There is nothing to gain by playing a voluntary rule set and cheating in it. In three years of PD, I've whitnessed less than a handful of attempts to cheat. If I suspect it, I keep a close eye and ask other trusted officers to do the same. It just doesn't happen that much.

parvo
12-19-2009, 04:57 PM
I'm still hoping for someone with the nuts to go "no raises period" with their guild. That's the essence of permadeath.

Ungood
12-28-2009, 06:29 AM
PD as far as I view it is purely for entertainment value. Great idea, I might make a toon to join for the fun of it, just to see how far I can go before I die.

kafrielveddicus
10-07-2010, 03:16 PM
Is this guild still active???