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Davvic
10-26-2009, 05:22 PM
new to the ddo game and decided to roll a spellsinger. im somewhat aiming to throw sorcerer spells into the mix(if this is even possible). was wondering if any higher levels could tell me if it is?

Noctus
10-26-2009, 09:00 PM
Yes, you can multiclass your Spellsinger with Sorocerer.

But no, this is a very bad idea. Your Sorcerer spells will always be merly palor tricks, while you will significantly hurt your bard spellcasting side.

Spellsigners are best pure, by a far amount.

Davvic
10-27-2009, 07:25 PM
thank you for responding, but i was planning on putting a lot of points into my intelligence. would crossing over to wizard instead be a smart choice?

elldur
10-27-2009, 07:33 PM
Bards powers are based on the same ability as the sorcerer, so going wiz would probably not result in a net gain. I do agree that bards are best kept pure, however a single level of sorcerer at higher levels will gain you a significant number of spell points compared to a pure bard spellsinger. Taking that same sorc level early on will not have the same net effect but will still result in an increase to your mana pool. Bards are a blast to play so have fun!

hydra_ex
10-27-2009, 07:33 PM
thank you for responding, but i was planning on putting a lot of points into my intelligence. would crossing over to wizard instead be a smart choice?

Neither of those ideas are good choices. vid. above for reasons not to go wizard. Bards get 6 skill points +1 per intelligence modifier. Thus, with an 8 base INT, you get 5 skill points. Your skills: Perform, UMD, haggle. Possibly Concentration. Maybe Balance. Maybe jump. So, INT is not good for anything.

Davvic
10-27-2009, 07:48 PM
Neither of those ideas are good choices. vid. above for reasons not to go wizard. Bards get 6 skill points +1 per intelligence modifier. Thus, with an 8 base INT, you get 5 skill points. Your skills: Perform, UMD, haggle. Possibly Concentration. Maybe Balance. Maybe jump. So, INT is not good for anything.
but if i crossed over to wizard or sorc, wouldnt int then be useful?

whysper
10-27-2009, 08:03 PM
It seems you have some kind of a character concept in mind (which is good, I find that many newcomers multiclass just for the sake of it - novelty I guess?) so you can try to start fitting pieces together.

By and large, multiclassing more than 2-3 levels into a primary casting class will severely reduce that functionality - i.e. you lose spells - and should be avoided. Going 10 Sor/Wiz/Clr is pretty much never a good idea, but especially not if mixed with another casting class. You usually - exceptions exist - end up with a severely underpowered and importantly unfun character. Have you looked at the class information on the Compendium? Do you know how many levels you need to take to get where you want to be and conversely how many you can sacrifice off the other?

What exactly is it that you wish to gain from the multiclassing? Are there specific spells you wanted, or some concept you are going for?

Davvic
10-27-2009, 08:12 PM
It seems you have some kind of a character concept in mind (which is good, I find that many newcomers multiclass just for the sake of it - novelty I guess?) so you can try to start fitting pieces together.

By and large, multiclassing more than 2-3 levels into a primary casting class will severely reduce that functionality - i.e. you lose spells - and should be avoided. Going 10 Sor/Wiz/Clr is pretty much never a good idea, but especially not if mixed with another casting class. You usually - exceptions exist - end up with a severely underpowered and importantly unfun character. Have you looked at the class information on the Compendium? Do you know how many levels you need to take to get where you want to be and conversely how many you can sacrifice off the other?

What exactly is it that you wish to gain from the multiclassing? Are there specific spells you wanted, or some concept you are going for?

i would be hoping for any sort of dmg spells, before i even made a charactar i did infact read all of the class descriptions. Sorcerer and Bard both defineatly peaked my interests, and i noticed that they were based off of similar stats(charisma). And since they both sounded interesting to me i wanted some sort of dmg spells like a sorcerer would have.

whysper
10-27-2009, 08:29 PM
Bards are definitely not specialised in the area of damage spellwise - more of the Enchantment line of things as is fitting. In your case, I would suggest the following in this order of preference:

1) Make a Bard and a Sorcerer and play both.

2) Make a battlemage, if you liked Bards' martial capabilities but want damage spells too. Something in tune of 2Pal/2Ftr/16Sor, for example. There are various builds of this type on the Sorcerer and Wizard forums.

hydra_ex
10-27-2009, 08:30 PM
i would be hoping for any sort of dmg spells, before i even made a charactar i did infact read all of the class descriptions. Sorcerer and Bard both defineatly peaked my interests, and i noticed that they were based off of similar stats(charisma). And since they both sounded interesting to me i wanted some sort of dmg spells like a sorcerer would have.

As mentioned above, twice already, 2 or 3 levels of a casting class is not enough to be of any use. No matter what spells you may gain access to, those spells will be utterly useless, even at lower levels.