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TommyBoy
07-09-2008, 09:27 AM
I just wondering if I'm missing something. I don't normally play rogue but I've never had this happen.

last night I was running Durk's on hard and tried to disarm the acid trap. I rolled a 12 +11 and critticly failed.

how is a 12 let alone a 12 +11 a crit fail? I know that trap has a higher dc but I did the fire one on elite with a roll of 10 +11 so should a 12 be high enough to work one on hard?

like i said I dont typicly play rogue.

Aspenor
07-09-2008, 09:28 AM
What level is your rogue, Tommy?

TommyBoy
07-09-2008, 10:16 AM
he was at lvl2 when this happened

Aspenor
07-09-2008, 10:19 AM
he was at lvl2 when this happened

Durk's hard may be a level 2 or 3 quest on the sheets, but in practice quest difficulty scales much faster than the rewards. That trap is essentially designed around the skill set of a level 4 or 5 rogue as far as DC's go.

At least that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.

Drider
07-09-2008, 10:23 AM
I've seen the same thing... it's just weird crit failing on higher then a 1-5.

Freeman
07-09-2008, 10:24 AM
The acid trap is also an optional, so that may also be why they increased the difficulty of that trap compared to the fire trap. I know the trap itself is much more deadly than the fire trap, even on normal difficulty. I always liked that trap, since it is one of the first places where people go "Loot! *ding*". I've seen many people die on that trap, even if they knew it was there, because the underestimated its damage.

Freeman
07-09-2008, 10:26 AM
I've seen the same thing... it's just weird crit failing on higher then a 1-5.

The number you roll has nothing to do with it. All that matters is how much below the DC of the trap you roll. If the DC was a 35, even a roll of 20 with a +11 modifier would be a critical failure.

TommyBoy
07-09-2008, 12:48 PM
The number you roll has nothing to do with it. All that matters is how much below the DC of the trap you roll. If the DC was a 35, even a roll of 20 with a +11 modifier would be a critical failure.


ok i guess that was what missing