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Cowdenicus
04-16-2008, 08:34 PM
I am asking for a new Premium Service.

I would like the ability to pay 5 extra dollars a month, for 3 extra character slots. I do not wish to buy a third account, but would love some extra space on this account.

If I could get some developer feedback that would be great.

Thank you,
A Humble DDO addict.

Nevthial
04-16-2008, 08:43 PM
/signed

I would even pay more than that if necessary.

Lorien_the_First_One
04-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Yup, I'd go for that.

Memnir
04-16-2008, 09:13 PM
/signed with enthusiasm

If Turbine ever wanted a Premium Service that would be a sure-fire way to make money, this is it.

Garth_of_Sarlona
04-16-2008, 10:51 PM
I hate petitions, so I won't 'sign' this. But I do agree :)

Garth

Aesop
04-16-2008, 10:56 PM
Or even just a one time fee of 14.99 to open 1 Slot on a given server and you can buy up to x number of extra slots

Aesop

Pellegro
04-16-2008, 11:02 PM
Some kind of premium service to permit us to buy more slots on an existing account is a no brainer.

$10/mos. for 3 more slots. You wouldn't have to pay the price of a new game to get it (saving you $$$ vs. a new account) and you would be able to roll 32 pt builds immediately (assuming you have them unlocked).

They'd make thousands a month extra off it... Whos in charge over there anyway??? :p

Uska
04-16-2008, 11:11 PM
There should never be a bonus for paying extra money starts a bad trend.

In_Like_Flynn
04-16-2008, 11:14 PM
Throw in another $5 for a shared bank account.

ThrasherGT
04-16-2008, 11:33 PM
There should never be a bonus for paying extra money starts a bad trend.

OK, I'll bite, why exactly would this OPTIONAL cost for more slots be a bad thing?

Cowdenicus
04-16-2008, 11:41 PM
There should never be a bonus for paying extra money starts a bad trend.

I heartily disagree, it generates extra revenue for little cost, and is a convienience that the player base can CHOOSE to take part of, and as a heads up, I would use this service AND keep 2 accounts active, although I would only use this service on one account.

Uska
04-17-2008, 12:03 AM
OK, I'll bite, why exactly would this OPTIONAL cost for more slots be a bad thing?
They see you bite on this then they add other nicer stuff and you almost have to pay the extra costs to keep playing. They should just give slots to equal what they have in Europe, of course no matter how many slots they give us some wont be happy and want more.

Cowdenicus
04-17-2008, 12:14 AM
They see you bite on this then they add other nicer stuff and you almost have to pay the extra costs to keep playing. They should just give slots to equal what they have in Europe, of course no matter how many slots they give us some wont be happy and want more.

and with this system those that want more can have them.

They offer character transfer services, and one doesnt have to use that to play the game.

Lorien_the_First_One
04-17-2008, 06:20 AM
There should never be a bonus for paying extra money starts a bad trend.

Most companies have options for services, its a good way of doing business. Not everyone wants to pay $20 for the full package you could offer so you charge $15, and have "extras" that can add up to $10 to the cost, so some pay $15, some back $25, some pay something in the middle. Everyone ends up happy. Why do you think they ask you what kind of oil you want when you get an oil change?

Lorien_the_First_One
04-17-2008, 06:21 AM
They see you bite on this then they add other nicer stuff and you almost have to pay the extra costs to keep playing. They should just give slots to equal what they have in Europe, of course no matter how many slots they give us some wont be happy and want more.

Except they have already said they won't give this to us for made up and silly reasons.

Ildaron
04-17-2008, 06:32 AM
OK, I'll bite, why exactly would this OPTIONAL cost for more slots be a bad thing?


Just my thoughts but the reason I would see this as a bad thing, first people would pay money for extra slots. After that well no extra slots for anyone. We get some people pretty vocal about changes we didn't pay for now, you pay an extra $5 for two months and then hear three extra slots are being added and most people are going to feel cheated.

Lets not stop there how about they revisit that idea of paying for people to be involved in live events? I love live events, however I am on a budget I can't afford to pay for them and I wouldn't want to even if I have the money. Sure people would have a choice to do so or not, but I think it will sour people if they did so.

They could also revisit the idea for paying to be first in line. You have a game problem, you need to speak with a GM? You logged in a ticket first? X paid $5 so his ticket is claimed before yours.

Unlikely to happen? Well they did do a survey asking how much we would be willing to pay for such things. I myself don't want to start getting nickel and dimed for every feature the game has. I prefer the over all product to be so outstanding that I don't have any desire to pay anything extra for something more.

Lorien_the_First_One
04-17-2008, 06:46 AM
Lets not stop there how about they revisit that idea of paying for people to be involved in live events? I love live events, however I am on a budget I can't afford to pay for them and I wouldn't want to even if I have the money. Sure people would have a choice to do so or not, but I think it will sour people if they did so.

Although you are right that they could start charging for that, I doubt they would. It would probably be more trouble than its worth for a variety of reasons.

What makes the slot idea "sellable" is that we all acknowledge that there is a real cost to the, albiet small, storage space, in giving us more slots and that the alternative is to buy a $60/6 month new account. Anything that is roughly propotional in cost to that will be seen as reasonable by many.


They could also revisit the idea for paying to be first in line. You have a game problem, you need to speak with a GM? You logged in a ticket first? X paid $5 so his ticket is claimed before yours.

Definately could happen, I think it would be a mistake, but you know what, my local gas utility does exactly that. Not for leaks and life threatening stuff, but if your furnace is down mid winter night they put your call higher in the queue if you bought their "service plan".

Samadhi
04-17-2008, 10:03 AM
Charging an additional monthly fee I see one large problem with - what happens if I want to downgrade my account? Sure, for a while it was great having 20 slots, but the expense got to me and I cannot afford them all anymore. Are the GM police going to come randomly delete my characters if I don't do so myself in a "timely" fashion? Seems too problematic.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am 100% behind the idea of paying a one-time fee for an additional character slot (and have mentioned this in the past as well). Make it similar to the character transfer in essence. Both provide the capability to get an extra character on the server of my choice. This method is both already somewhat in existance due to the transfer service and should be much less problematic in the long run. Much support from me.

Of course, I still prefer just begging for additional slots. I'm once again bored of high level content already and, with every character slot filled and capped, and left with little else to do. /signed for getting thrown a bone.

MissErres
04-17-2008, 10:12 AM
How about this? With each toon that reaches a certain amount of favor, it opens up a new character slot? I believe we already had/have that with one 1750 favor toon, why not more for other 1750 favor toons or even 2250 favor or so? An incentive for playing, exploring new content, going back and exploing old content that now gets skipped. (those lvl 10-12 quests that are in limbo since GH showed up). Any thoughts on the idea?

Hambo
04-17-2008, 01:02 PM
How about this? With each toon that reaches a certain amount of favor, it opens up a new character slot? I believe we already had/have that with one 1750 favor toon, why not more for other 1750 favor toons or even 2250 favor or so? An incentive for playing, exploring new content, going back and exploing old content that now gets skipped. (those lvl 10-12 quests that are in limbo since GH showed up). Any thoughts on the idea?

We also got a new slot at 400 favor, with the Drow.

It seems that in each Mod that we recieved the ability to make a new "type" of alt (i.e. Drow at 400, 32pt build at 1750) we were given an additional slot so that people with all slots full could try new builds. Even though the new class(es) may be core and not subject to a favor "cost", I would like to see the tradition continued with the Monk and all new types as they are released.

Shaamis
04-17-2008, 01:04 PM
How about this? With each toon that reaches a certain amount of favor, it opens up a new character slot? I believe we already had/have that with one 1750 favor toon, why not more for other 1750 favor toons or even 2250 favor or so? An incentive for playing, exploring new content, going back and exploing old content that now gets skipped. (those lvl 10-12 quests that are in limbo since GH showed up). Any thoughts on the idea?

I'd have 40+ character slots on my account if I kept/continued with all of the characters I've deleted, and instead used them for more slots.

I like the idea, it promotes more playing, and thats a good thing

Ransacked
04-17-2008, 01:09 PM
Just opened up their servers to 35 maximum slots per server.

10 of which you can purchase for a one time fee of 9 dollars.

That's awesome. In addition to that you get a character slot for every year you have played the game ala veteran rewards.

MissErres
04-17-2008, 01:11 PM
I'd have 40+ character slots on my account if I kept/continued with all of the characters I've deleted, and instead used them for more slots.

I like the idea, it promotes more playing, and thats a good thing


Kinda my thoughts exactly.... ;)

Yvonne_Blacksword
04-17-2008, 01:14 PM
wait...I just spent $10 for 5 more slots.

And yes
/signed

ThrasherGT
04-17-2008, 01:21 PM
They could also revisit the idea for paying to be first in line. You have a game problem, you need to speak with a GM? You logged in a ticket first? X paid $5 so his ticket is claimed before yours.

There is certainly precedent for this to work. I use Case's Ladder as an example, where there are 3 levels of membership. A "gold" account guarantees customer service replies within 24 hours, "Platinum" within 12 hours, and "Diamond" within 6 hours. I'm not saying that I would like to see Turbine do this, but there are certainly business models out there that use it............

ThrasherGT
04-17-2008, 01:25 PM
In addition to that you get a character slot for every year you have played the game ala veteran rewards.

Now that would be a nice reward for us loyal customers who've been around from the beginning, and would be incentive for players to keep their accounts active.

Mad_Bombardier
04-17-2008, 01:54 PM
I like both Cowdenicus and Aesop's ideas. But let's look at the pricing for a moment.

If you had created a 2nd account during the anniversary pricing special, you could have gotten 7 slots for $9.99 a month. 3 slots for $4.99 a month seems a little high ($60 per year). Keeping in the spirit of one-time fee Premium services, the $14.99 for permanently adding one slot seems fair. $44.97 for 3 slots, permanently added to your account seems a very good long-tem investment for players and a good short-term cash generator for Turbine.

JosephKell
04-17-2008, 07:42 PM
There should never be a bonus for paying extra money starts a bad trend.I agree with Uska. This is a true slippery slope.

First it is $X for extra character slots. Then it is $Y for reduced raid dungeon reset clock time. It just escalates.

If you are so tired of your characters that you don't want to play them anymore and want to make new ones, perhaps it is time to delete an existing character?

Cowdenicus
04-17-2008, 08:12 PM
I agree with Uska. This is a true slippery slope.

First it is $X for extra character slots. Then it is $Y for reduced raid dungeon reset clock time. It just escalates.

If you are so tired of your characters that you don't want to play them anymore and want to make new ones, perhaps it is time to delete an existing character?

Who says I dont play the characters?

Maybe some of us like to keep a wide spread of classes and levels. Maybe Cow likes to play so much he already has characters on all 5 servers. Maybe Cow already owns multiple accounts and doesnt want to start a third account. Maybe Cow just wants a few more character slots for fun.

Maybe Cow believes that Turbine Premium Services wont have anything to do with raid timers, and that you are putting in worthless arguments to pad your post count.

Uska
04-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Who says I dont play the characters?

Maybe some of us like to keep a wide spread of classes and levels. Maybe Cow likes to play so much he already has characters on all 5 servers. Maybe Cow already owns multiple accounts and doesnt want to start a third account. Maybe Cow just wants a few more character slots for fun.

Maybe Cow believes that Turbine Premium Services wont have anything to do with raid timers, and that you are putting in worthless arguments to pad your post count.

Post count means nothing here, some forums you get rank based on how many posts you make but not here so your point is point less

Cowdenicus
04-17-2008, 11:25 PM
Post count means nothing here, some forums you get rank based on how many posts you make but not here so your point is point less

As pointless as was his post, thank you for pointing ouit the delicious irony. Now back to the topic at hand....

ThrasherGT
04-18-2008, 12:31 AM
I agree with Uska. This is a true slippery slope.

First it is $X for extra character slots. Then it is $Y for reduced raid dungeon reset clock time. It just escalates.

If you are so tired of your characters that you don't want to play them anymore and want to make new ones, perhaps it is time to delete an existing character?

Do You seriously think this would ever be implemented? seriously? And, no, I don't want to delete any of My characters at the moment, so Paying X dollars for X slots (and I am thinking that a one time fee is better than a recurring fee) would, IMO, be the best thing since sliced bread. I like to experiment, and I don't have enough slots to try all the characters I would like to. Why would paying more for more slots affect anyone else in any way? If players don't want to do it, they can choose to not pay. What's the problem?

FluffyDucky
04-18-2008, 03:03 PM
I like the idea but the only possible issue (as someone else pointed out) is downgrading an account.

One solution is to simply not allow downgrading the account until it has the proper number of slots. As long as you have more than X number of characters you will be billed the extra slot charge.

Another solution is a one time charge to increase your number of slots.

I'm not sure I'd use this service but it would be nice to know it's available. I'd be more likley to use it if it was a one time fee but I think it would be better for Turbine as a monthly fee.

Ikuryo
04-18-2008, 07:05 PM
The idea that they would just keep billing you the higher amount until you had deleted characters would get them in a LOT of trouble. Regardless of their reasoning they are likely to have people just quit the game then deal with that sort of mess. A one time fee is basically the only way to do it without running into too many issues. If you are going to add to the monthly fee the service added needs to be something that can be removed without making the game unplayable and would need to be more of a perk then a needed feature.

Personally I kind of hate monthly fees and would prefer to have the option to pay a single large sum for a lifetime membership. Then I would not have to worry about the price going up or having my credit card always having a balance on it from a random charge. If I find I like a game and would be planning to play for over a year a single fee that is more then a couple years worth of monthly fees would be a welcome option. I would only be worried about a game that tanked after a year but you can normally get a feel for the game in the early days about its lasting power.

JFeenstra
04-18-2008, 07:19 PM
like i said in the other thread, there IS already a set amount for extra slots:

pay $25- transfer a 1750 char to server x
build 8 more lvl 1 32 point builds
pay $225- transfer those 9 chars back to your regular server

so it's $250 for 8 more permanent characters, or $31.25 per extra character slot now ($50 initial and $25 for each additional character)

ThrasherGT
04-19-2008, 02:03 AM
like i said in the other thread, there IS already a set amount for extra slots:

pay $25- transfer a 1750 char to server x
build 8 more lvl 1 32 point builds
pay $225- transfer those 9 chars back to your regular server

so it's $250 for 8 more permanent characters, or $31.25 per extra character slot now ($50 initial and $25 for each additional character)

EXCEPT, with the character limit set at 9 (or in My case 10, since I got 2 1750's before they nerfed it), when monks come out You would not get a slot for it. Being that there is a way to get extra slots in the manner You have presented (although with this method You still go over the limit, and cannot just delete a character and make a new one...), I would think that a one time fee of X dollars for X Permanent (without going over the limit) slots would be very possible to implement. I mean, seriously, all We are talking about here is Data Storage, and there is precedent for more slots being feasible (see european servers), and many, many players would go for this (including Myself). Sounds like a no-brainer to Me.............I, for one, would be willing to pay as much as 20 dollars per slot (as a one time fee, of course)

JFeenstra
04-19-2008, 07:35 AM
EXCEPT, with the character limit set at 9 (or in My case 10, since I got 2 1750's before they nerfed it), when monks come out You would not get a slot for it. Being that there is a way to get extra slots in the manner You have presented (although with this method You still go over the limit, and cannot just delete a character and make a new one...), I would think that a one time fee of X dollars for X Permanent (without going over the limit) slots would be very possible to implement. I mean, seriously, all We are talking about here is Data Storage, and there is precedent for more slots being feasible (see european servers), and many, many players would go for this (including Myself). Sounds like a no-brainer to Me.............I, for one, would be willing to pay as much as 20 dollars per slot (as a one time fee, of course)

sure you would, you'd get an extra slot on your 'character making' server so instead of building 8 chars there you could build 9 without going over the limit

it'll still cost you $25 to get that character to your main server though

being over the limit doesn't mean you don't get the slot, it just means that the slot you got is already full