Spock2

03-17-2008, 03:47 PM

Hello!

Over the last 2 weeks 3 clerics from our guild have been working out max possible heal that you can hit someone with, and what affects heals. Here is what we learned so far, plus a few questions that maybe someone here can answer.

(Please forgive me if this is a long post, or if it has been talked about before. I did search :p)

This has been taken and cut up from my Guild's fourms.

The three clerics are as follows:

Santena Drow Cleric/Fighter (Fleric!!) 14/2

Ambr Drow Cleric 16

Yoney Dwarven Cleric 14

Santena and Ambr both have the same equipment, nearly the same feats and enhancements, just Santena has a few fighter feats, etc. This was started due to the fact that on Healing before I made some major changes to Santena my heals were less than 1/2's Ambrs, and in the new raid I really wasted a lot on pots and scrolls.

Here is what the Heal spell's normal max is.

10 HP per level to a max level of 15. So 10 X 15 = 150 (Yes, there will be math in this post)

This was confirmed my Ambr, her max with no equipment, feats or enhancements will give you 150. Santena and Yoney both get 140 do to their caster levels.

Now here is where it gets intresting:

10 HP per level of caster up to level 15. Max 150

Cleric Life magic add 40%

Empowered Healing add 50%

Superior Potency or Superior Devotion adds another 50%

So here is what I believe should be correct:

Santena:

10x14=140x1.4=196x1.5=294x1.5=441

Ambr:

10x15=150x1.4=210x1.5=315x1.5=473

Yoney:

10x14=140x1.3=183x1.5=276x1.5=412

However this is not correct.

Santena gets 399, Ambr gets 427 and Yoney is getting 378.

After a lot of work this is what we see...

SP/SD is not giving us our 50%!

With just my enchancements and SP I was getting 266, but if you look at the formula it should be...

10x14=140x1.4=196x1.5=294

So I tried just my enhancements and got 196...The formula works out here.

10x14=140x1.4=196

Then just SP and no enhancements and got 186.

10x14=140x1.5=210.

BINGO! Here is the problem. Either SP/SD is bugged, or I fail at math. :D

So I went back to my formula knowing that SP/SD was not giving me 50% and tried to work out what I was getting from it and found that it was giving me about 35-37%... See below:

Santena:

14x10=140*1.4=196*1.35=265*1.5=397

Ambr:

15x10=150*1.4=210*1.35=284*1.5=426

Yoney:

14X10=140*1.3=183*1.35=247*1.5=371

Ok for the people still reading, yes, I am off a few here, but I am close. ;) And yes we did try SD 6 to see if it made a difference, and no it does not.

What I am looking for is two fold.

1) Where am I making a mistake in my formula?

2) What is your max (normal) heals?

And maybe later we can work out the max crit possible for heals :eek: (Santena 1097, Ambr 1175 on non humans)

Over the last 2 weeks 3 clerics from our guild have been working out max possible heal that you can hit someone with, and what affects heals. Here is what we learned so far, plus a few questions that maybe someone here can answer.

(Please forgive me if this is a long post, or if it has been talked about before. I did search :p)

This has been taken and cut up from my Guild's fourms.

The three clerics are as follows:

Santena Drow Cleric/Fighter (Fleric!!) 14/2

Ambr Drow Cleric 16

Yoney Dwarven Cleric 14

Santena and Ambr both have the same equipment, nearly the same feats and enhancements, just Santena has a few fighter feats, etc. This was started due to the fact that on Healing before I made some major changes to Santena my heals were less than 1/2's Ambrs, and in the new raid I really wasted a lot on pots and scrolls.

Here is what the Heal spell's normal max is.

10 HP per level to a max level of 15. So 10 X 15 = 150 (Yes, there will be math in this post)

This was confirmed my Ambr, her max with no equipment, feats or enhancements will give you 150. Santena and Yoney both get 140 do to their caster levels.

Now here is where it gets intresting:

10 HP per level of caster up to level 15. Max 150

Cleric Life magic add 40%

Empowered Healing add 50%

Superior Potency or Superior Devotion adds another 50%

So here is what I believe should be correct:

Santena:

10x14=140x1.4=196x1.5=294x1.5=441

Ambr:

10x15=150x1.4=210x1.5=315x1.5=473

Yoney:

10x14=140x1.3=183x1.5=276x1.5=412

However this is not correct.

Santena gets 399, Ambr gets 427 and Yoney is getting 378.

After a lot of work this is what we see...

SP/SD is not giving us our 50%!

With just my enchancements and SP I was getting 266, but if you look at the formula it should be...

10x14=140x1.4=196x1.5=294

So I tried just my enhancements and got 196...The formula works out here.

10x14=140x1.4=196

Then just SP and no enhancements and got 186.

10x14=140x1.5=210.

BINGO! Here is the problem. Either SP/SD is bugged, or I fail at math. :D

So I went back to my formula knowing that SP/SD was not giving me 50% and tried to work out what I was getting from it and found that it was giving me about 35-37%... See below:

Santena:

14x10=140*1.4=196*1.35=265*1.5=397

Ambr:

15x10=150*1.4=210*1.35=284*1.5=426

Yoney:

14X10=140*1.3=183*1.35=247*1.5=371

Ok for the people still reading, yes, I am off a few here, but I am close. ;) And yes we did try SD 6 to see if it made a difference, and no it does not.

What I am looking for is two fold.

1) Where am I making a mistake in my formula?

2) What is your max (normal) heals?

And maybe later we can work out the max crit possible for heals :eek: (Santena 1097, Ambr 1175 on non humans)