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Humperdink
02-15-2008, 03:49 AM
For a while now I've seen people on the forums claiming they can crit for over 200 points of damage. Anyone know how they are achieving this? As a test I went out to the desert and whacked on some Gnolls.

Warforged 14Barbarian/2Fighter
44 Strength, Triple Raged
Power Attack on
Bloodstone equipped

Weapons used:

+3 Greataxe of Greater Gnoll Bane
+4 Icy Burst Greataxe of Righteousness
+4 Shocking Burst Greataxe of Maiming

My crits were in the 165-175 range. At other points in time I've gotten 150-160 depending on number of rages going. Any suggestions?

KaKa
02-15-2008, 04:05 AM
The times I find myself doing 200+ crits is when I have bard songs and a seeker item, Bloodstone or Mentos Goggles.

Angelus_dead
02-15-2008, 04:08 AM
I've crit for 203 with a +5 greataxe.

Let me count it up:
12 base + (20 str) * 1.5 + 14 Power Attack + 2 Inspire Greatness + 8 Inspire Courage + 6 Bloodstone = 72

72 * 3 crit mult = 216

So, I suppose I could get over 203 with better rolls of the d12s. And naturally, with a better weapon than plain +5 you'd get more damage. Note that buying higher levels of Barbarian Power Attack would increase your high-watermark for damage, but possibly reduce your overall DPS if it causes you to miss the target entirely. (That question depends on what AC the monsters have, and what sources of attack buffs you've got)

CDG
02-15-2008, 06:24 AM
Have hit 210+, that was with all you have mentioned plus a Warchanter in party and hitting 48str with the Scourge Choker going nuts :D

HorridForm
02-15-2008, 08:17 AM
My Barb has all the stats-enhancements-tomes-items for max possible Str of which I dont always equip.
IE: Scourge Chocker stays off alot.

Dwarf Axe Damage
Power Attack III
and Ele Burst Weapons of Greater Bane
can carry your DPS from 186 on low crits to 239 on high crits. 200-263 with a Warchanter

In your set up you're lacking 3-26 damage w/o bursting
6 damage w/o Axe Damage II
9 damage w/o Power Attack III

18-41 damage is exactly what your missing to top off the 200+ if you add it to your 165 - 175 range.

Redcoil
02-15-2008, 08:24 AM
Just make a 14/2 WF Barb/fighter.

Deathnip, tripple rage. Your looking at I'lll say mid 40's str, +11 from PA (WF Powerattack and Barb Powerattack), pick some TWF and another pick, you'll routinely crit for 230-260 one handed on a 15...mainhand deathnip, offhand nice pick with burst effect...again, that'll crit on 17-20 for about 200ish depending on weapon.

For DPS...what more could you want?

Shade
02-15-2008, 10:03 AM
My max crit was for 239. +~30 glancing blow +~18 greater bane

+3 greater bane greataxe, lotd, mentaus googles, power attack III, Dwarven axe dmg II, 48 strength double madstoned, warchanter buffs.

Humperdink
02-20-2008, 07:56 PM
I appreciate the replies, especially the detailed breakdown by HorridForm. Redid enhancements for barb and WF power attack. Ran Chain of the Flames. With Triple Rage (44Str) and the greater gnoll bane axe I'm now hitting 190-210. And I wasn't thinking of bard buffs before. Guess I'll have to run around with a warchanter in my pocket. :-)

Mad_Bombardier
02-21-2008, 09:39 AM
And I wasn't thinking of bard buffs before. Guess I'll have to run around with a warchanter in my pocket. :-)Bards make everything better. :)

thisgamesull
02-28-2008, 10:43 AM
Just make a 14/2 WF Barb/fighter.

Deathnip, tripple rage. Your looking at I'lll say mid 40's str, +11 from PA (WF Powerattack and Barb Powerattack), pick some TWF and another pick, you'll routinely crit for 230-260 one handed on a 15...mainhand deathnip, offhand nice pick with burst effect...again, that'll crit on 17-20 for about 200ish depending on weapon.

For DPS...what more could you want?

get another deathnip ;)

Humperdink
03-17-2008, 06:03 AM
Just want to report back the changes are working great. Seeing some nice crit numbers now as well as regular hits. Regular hits are now averaging around 60 points or so. Have hit about 225 points with a +3 Holy Burst Adamantine Maul of Righteousness and about 210 with a +5 Seeker Silver Greataxe of Pure Good on the pit fiend. That's with a bard in the party. Yaaaa bards. Mad_Bombardier's right. Made me dust mine off and start playing him. Thanks again for input.