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Soldarm
10-22-2007, 06:38 AM
Can you take the feat: Mithral Fluidity more than once? and does it give you additional benefit to do so?

I have taken it once and when I was able to get a new feat upon leveling it still appeared as an option in the feat list.

Does it stack if taken twice?

MrCow
10-22-2007, 10:39 AM
Yep, it stacks with itself.

Soldarm
10-23-2007, 05:27 AM
So how many time can you take it? 3? 4? and if so has anyone done so to what benefit?

Mad_Bombardier
10-23-2007, 08:36 AM
So how many time can you take it? 3? 4? and if so has anyone done so to what benefit?In theory, you could use all 5 feats and take it 5 times. But, using a feat to increase your AC is not advisable. If you're a fighter, try the Fighter's Armor Mastery enhancement (not 100% sure this works for WF, but worth a look since enhancements are able to be reset). If you're not a fighter, why bother? There's much better uses of feats out there.

RemoJr
10-23-2007, 02:55 PM
yeah, i suppose if you went fighter and had a 28 dex with adamantine plating, then taking 5 mithral fluity and fighter armor mastery 3 could be done. But at that point, a dwarf with a 24 dex could use it fully with the dwarven version of armor mastery. A high dex WF should just go mithral or composite with they have a huge dex.

Though it is a neat though, with the daggertooth belt a WF in adamantine could fully use a 30 dex, though it's probably best to go mithral.composite.

MrCow
10-23-2007, 03:08 PM
yeah, i suppose if you went fighter and had a 28 dex with adamantine plating, then taking 5 mithral fluity and fighter armor mastery 3 could be done.


Mithral Fluidity
The maximum Dex bonus you have is increased by 1, and the armor check penalties are decreased by 1.
Prerequisite: Warforged, Mithral Body

You kinda need Mithril Body to take Mithril Fluidity. :p

RemoJr
10-23-2007, 06:03 PM
You kinda need Mithril Body to take Mithril Fluidity. :p

bah, darn you and your logic! ok then, with 5 fludies, daggertooth belt, and armor mastery 3 a mithral plated WF can have a max dex of 37, if that's even possible for a WF.

Mad_Bombardier
10-23-2007, 08:26 PM
bah, darn you and your logic! ok then, with 5 fludies, daggertooth belt, and armor mastery 3 a mithral plated WF can have a max dex of 37, if that's even possible for a WF.Daggertooth's won't stack with Fighters Armor Mastery. :p

Mithral Body (+5), 5 Mithral Fluidities (+5), and FAM3 (+3) requires 36 DEX to fill out. And no, a WF cannot hit that yet (static score, no buffs/pots). A WF Ranger/Rogue can hit 33DEX and use FAM2 from Daggertooth's Belt. Or a WF Fighter can hit 30 DEX and use FAM3 and 2 Mithral Fluidities.

Spectralist
10-27-2007, 06:43 AM
Mithral Body (+5), 5 Mithral Fluidities (+5), and FAM3 (+3) requires 36 DEX to fill out. And no, a WF cannot hit that yet (static score, no buffs/pots). A WF Ranger/Rogue can hit 33DEX and use FAM2 from Daggertooth's Belt. Or a WF Fighter can hit 30 DEX and use FAM3 and 2 Mithral Fluidities.

Actually a warforged can only take 4 mithral fluidities, due to having to spend the first feat on mithral body. Still though, that's a 9 max dex bonus on a breastplate.

I think the more interesting one though is improved damage reduction, with adamantine body and 4 improved DR feats and the +2DR enhancement a warforged can hit a permanent 8dr/adamantine. Pity you cant take more with the fighter bonus feats... if they ever implement the rogue bonus feats correctly a rogue could hit 11 DR/adamantine.

Skirmish
11-27-2007, 03:02 PM
Sadly though, if they gave gave rogues a DR it would more than likely be the same as the barbarian DR and wouldn't stack with the WF DR.

Aeneas
11-27-2007, 03:17 PM
A wf ranger with a decent dex at end game (26 or so) can use the mithral fluidity feats to make up for the ac lost by not wearing a shield. Having a competitive AC to make up for your free TWF feats is nicey nice. With 3 mithral fluidities and a shield spell (umd on a shield level 10 wand is way super awesome friends) you're doing the same AC-wise as a fighter wearing a +5 heavy shield, but swinging twice as much. With two weapon defense you're actually one up on them :) Filling out your build with 2 fighter levels will let you take the feats without missing out on imp crit and such.