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lostinjapan
08-23-2007, 07:05 AM
So I'm thinking about deleting Iathenu, my original elven ranger/rogue character, and rolling up a new ranger/rogue to replace her - fixing all the mistakes I made when I built her (and didn't know what I was doing), as well as starting with a 32 pt build instead of 28.

My question is this. Can anyone give me a build reason to go elf again instead of making her drow?

Kolvarg
08-23-2007, 07:43 AM
So I'm thinking about deleting Iathenu, my original elven ranger/rogue character, and rolling up a new ranger/rogue to replace her - fixing all the mistakes I made when I built her (and didn't know what I was doing), as well as starting with a 32 pt build instead of 28.

My question is this. Can anyone give me a build reason to go elf again instead of making her drow?

You can't make a 32 point Drow.

bandyman1
08-23-2007, 08:08 AM
Depends.

If you are gonna be ranged focused, the racial enhancements for elves with bows are nice.

If melee focused, if you are going weapon finesse and Dex-based, drow shortsword and rapier enhancements are nice there. If you are mixing it up between Str and Dex ( even or close ) with no weapon finessee, or wanna go melee slashing, then I would go elf.

As far as ability scores, there is really no difference between a 32 point elf and a drow. The bonuses drow get to Chr and Int only make a difference over the 4 extra build points of the elf if you plan on starting either of those scores over 14 base.

lostinjapan
08-23-2007, 11:55 AM
You can't make a 32 point Drow.

Duh...

My question was...IF I reroll my 28 pt build elf ranger/rogue...should I go


32 pt ELF
DROW


Not whether I can make something. I've been playing well long enough to know what I can and can't make. Read the question and you might come up with a MEANINGFUL answer.

lostinjapan
08-23-2007, 11:59 AM
Depends.

If you are gonna be ranged focused, the racial enhancements for elves with bows are nice.

If melee focused, if you are going weapon finesse and Dex-based, drow shortsword and rapier enhancements are nice there. If you are mixing it up between Str and Dex ( even or close ) with no weapon finessee, or wanna go melee slashing, then I would go elf.

As far as ability scores, there is really no difference between a 32 point elf and a drow. The bonuses drow get to Chr and Int only make a difference over the 4 extra build points of the elf if you plan on starting either of those scores over 14 base.

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

I'm thinking about remaking her similar to what she is now - only better.

12 ranger/2 rogue. Dex-based bow user (I have a strength-based 2wf ranger already). 16 base intelligence. Charisma probably starting at 14.

Do you feel the elf bow enhancements outweigh the spell resistance (and enhancements) drow get?

bandyman1
08-23-2007, 05:15 PM
Thank you for the thoughtful response.

I'm thinking about remaking her similar to what she is now - only better.

12 ranger/2 rogue. Dex-based bow user (I have a strength-based 2wf ranger already). 16 base intelligence. Charisma probably starting at 14.

Do you feel the elf bow enhancements outweigh the spell resistance (and enhancements) drow get?

No problem :)

IMHO yes they do. SR 19 is fairly easy to find on an item now, and since the enhancement change, drow rarely get their SR higher than this. I really don't think SR matters that much if you build for solid saves, just my opinion though.

Hvymetal
09-03-2007, 04:08 AM
The only reason I can think of comes down to weapon choices or in case you were thinking of getting dragon marked. Drow bonus is to Rapiers/Shortswords/Rapiers, elves bonuses are to Longswords/Rapiers/Longbows.
Honestly if you are dex based yea the bonus to bows is the only thing I would see that would influence this decision.

Sokar6000
01-19-2008, 02:35 PM
When I built my Elf Ranger, because I did not need the Charisma, I was actually able to get my stats higher on the 32 pt. Elf than the Drow.

EDIT: Lol...Talk about thread Necro! It was this old and still on the first page!