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Jundak
08-12-2007, 12:18 AM
Okay...drunken thought-form time...

I'd like to share with everyone a nice, easy, SIMPLE way to let everyone know that you're still away from your bloody keyboard. Put up your /lfh !!! Tharashkians have been doing this since headstart to let the group know that we're afk. This is especially useful during a particularly long raid when the smokers need to head out and do their thing while everyone else takes that opportunity to dodge family agro by saying "Hello...I'm still alive" to them.

/rant on

Honestly, most Tharashkians thought this was a DDO-wide practice, but no...instead, every single Thelanian and Xoriat that I've run into insists on just standing there like a lump with no visual indication that you're ready to get moving. And when they do return to their keyboard...? Half the time (no exaggeration for once) they don't say anything, type anything, or even twitch the character. Give us a freaking visual indication that you're back or still away, already!

Of course, I've been getting mildly irritated at another little quirk both of our new neighbors seem to think is entertaining...When I go afk, I've been getting Thelanians offering me ham for RP purposes (they think it's cute) and Xorians offering me ham because they're being sarcastic (they think they're original). No, ******!!! If you see a Tharashkian with that silly floating ham above his head, it means he/she is A-F-BLOODY-K!!!!

Stop sending me tells with "Har-har...You're looking for ham and I'm giving you one...Har-har...you there...? Hello...!? And I thought Xorians were rude..."

GAH!!!!!!!!! SHADDUP!!!!!!!!

You make me want to hang myself by my own entrails!!

/rant off

Good. I feel better now.

Seriously, though...if you type that useless /lfh command to indicate that you're afk, it'll make life a helluva lot more simple. Everyone heads out for a quick break, ham goes up...when each person returns, twitch your character to make it disappear and let the group know you're back. It'll make a world of difference, folks. Trust me.

Arlith
08-12-2007, 12:47 AM
I'd like to share with everyone a nice, easy, SIMPLE way to let everyone know that you're still away from your bloody keyboard. Put up your /lfh !!! Tharashkians have been doing this since headstart to let the group know that we're afk. This is especially useful during a particularly long raid when the smokers need to head out and do their thing while everyone else takes that opportunity to dodge family agro by saying "Hello...I'm still alive" to them.

Not gonna do it! Wouldn't be prudent, at this.... juncture. I cannot STAND LFH!!! It must die!!! Someday I WILL stab this thing in its cold black heart! I will however dance, or go to sleep.



Of course, I've been getting mildly irritated at another little quirk both of our new neighbors seem to think is entertaining...When I go afk, I've been getting Thelanians offering me ham for RP purposes (they think it's cute) and Xorians offering me ham because they're being sarcastic (they think they're original). No, ******!!! If you see a Tharashkian with that silly floating ham above his head, it means he/she is A-F-BLOODY-K!!!!

Perhaps, RPing aside, maybe, just maybe they think they are being nice and offering a neighborly gesture by offering you the ham you are looking for. Okay, I don't think so either but it could happen. It could...

Jundak
08-12-2007, 01:01 AM
Not gonna do it! Wouldn't be prudent, at this.... juncture. I cannot STAND LFH!!! It must die!!! Someday I WILL stab this thing in its cold black heart! I will however dance, or go to sleep.

Good enough. At least it's a visual. But the ham's here to stay!



Perhaps, RPing aside, maybe, just maybe they think they are being nice and offering a neighborly gesture by offering you the ham you are looking for. Okay, I don't think so either but it could happen. It could...

No it couldn't.

BUpcott
08-12-2007, 04:16 AM
Been using it off and on since we grouped together; I personally think it is a good idea and works well if everyone is on the same page. Heck until you told me I was like what the heck is this guy always doing /LFH on the PvP ledge! LoL

Anyways take care dude and I hope it catches on.

Akerue
08-12-2007, 04:00 PM
That is a good idea. I will do that from now on. If I am AFK I will slap up a LFH.

Jundak
08-12-2007, 05:13 PM
YES!!! Tharashkian hate...erh...ham is spreading! :D

Solstice
08-12-2007, 05:40 PM
Thelanis have love
Xoriat have hate

and we'll give ham? Bah Jundak! :eek:

PaintHorseCowboy
08-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Did I interperate this correctly?

Did you really just ask everyone in the game for more meat?

ROFLMAO

binnsr
08-12-2007, 06:41 PM
Look me up ingame, Jundak .. I got some tasty ham from that nice chaos-orb in Madstone Crater last night.
I think that might help with your cravings.

Merlask
08-12-2007, 09:10 PM
you know, ive always used the /lfh myself...was the only indefinite emote that made sense...kinda implied im out to dinner/lunch LOL

Jundak
08-12-2007, 09:58 PM
Did I interperate this correctly?

Did you really just ask everyone in the game for more meat?

ROFLMAO

What? Huh...!? Talk about taking an entire post out of context. :D

And Sol...ham can be used as a missle weapon if thrown hard enough.:p

Lizzybrat
08-12-2007, 10:09 PM
I guess I am the odd (wo)man out. I always use the /afk command when I go afk. I have also never had a problem in a party when someone goes afk - they usually post in party afk bio, letting the dog out, getting a drink, etc. and then usually say I'm back when they return. Usually the only time this doesn't happen is when lag eats them or they go ld.

Maybe I've just been lucky in the last year and a half.

Merlask
08-13-2007, 12:09 AM
I guess I am the odd (wo)man out. I always use the /afk command when I go afk. I have also never had a problem in a party when someone goes afk - they usually post in party afk bio, letting the dog out, getting a drink, etc. and then usually say I'm back when they return. Usually the only time this doesn't happen is when lag eats them or they go ld.

Maybe I've just been lucky in the last year and a half.

In party afk no prob. It's in general that I have to toss up the lfh. ppl walk by and go 'oh hey blah blah blah blah blah' and not in tells lol. Especially the rpers, knowing that I'm also an rper, who come up to try and interact w/ my characters. Naturally the lfh is very out-of-character lookin, so that's why I went with it. Going to sleep, sitting, facing in the corner. staring off aimlessly... none of that seemed to get the point across lol.

Jundak
08-13-2007, 03:34 AM
I guess I am the odd (wo)man out. I always use the /afk command when I go afk. I have also never had a problem in a party when someone goes afk - they usually post in party afk bio, letting the dog out, getting a drink, etc. and then usually say I'm back when they return. Usually the only time this doesn't happen is when lag eats them or they go ld.

Maybe I've just been lucky in the last year and a half.

Like I said, it's about 50% of the time...which is waaaaaay too often, imo. Even the folks who are religious about letting people know they're back have a senior moment...but those of us who are too damned old to go without diapers know that something's out of place when they see a bit of pork resting on their head. Reminds us to move and get rid of the silly thing, which in turn tells everyone else that you're at least paying attention to the screen.

For those of you who have adopted this little tidbit, thank-you. I actually saw a marked improvement tonight while pugging. And this is from people that I've been grouping with several times already since the merge. *thumbs up*

lostinjapan
08-13-2007, 05:31 AM
I've always just used /afk if I'm not in a group. If people send me tells they will get the message.

If in group I type /p afk fam in party chat when I have to get up quickly (have a family...sometimes have to leave quick) and always let people know when I return. Never been a /lfh person, never will be I expect...but I do understand and agree with the courtesy factor.

PaintHorseCowboy
08-13-2007, 08:22 AM
:D Here's a little bit of a sadistic idea that sort of goes along with this thread. (And for those of you who take this sort of thing way too seriously, yeah, it's a joke.):D

For the noobies, just /death...
don't /lfh.

Then at least we can pick up your soulstone and you will auto-follow along with the party, thereby saving us the time and effort of coming back to find your lost self from what will probably amount to be at least half the quest away. This also saves us mana as you will undoubtedly find some new and inventive way to die at least twice while running to catch up to the rest of the party.

For some reason, I couldn't get the Permadeath guy to see the logic of this. For the life of me, I can't figure out why. :D

Sanadil
08-13-2007, 08:34 AM
Why not post in development or general to get AFK changed, adding an icon over your head denoting your away from keyboard.....

LFH, never use it, but will give it a shot.....

Syriania
08-13-2007, 09:04 AM
I guess I am the odd (wo)man out. I always use the /afk command when I go afk. I have also never had a problem in a party when someone goes afk - they usually post in party afk bio, letting the dog out, getting a drink, etc. and then usually say I'm back when they return. Usually the only time this doesn't happen is when lag eats them or they go ld.

Maybe I've just been lucky in the last year and a half.
Yeah I do /afk too, I let my party know and anyone sending me tells will know once they see the message, /lfh is an amusing idea and it isn't too bad of one either, well I can recognize Xorians in general chat from them getting in other people's conversations in which I insult them, their momma, and their manhood, but now I know why I've seen so many people /lfh, it was the Tharashkians!

weyoun
08-13-2007, 09:25 AM
use the /lfh. you may be left standing at the door to the vault while i'm talking to the dwarf if you don't (tharashk hates incompetence). it is a clear visual indication that you are not there.

/afk is nice when your not in group so folks don't think you are blowing them off when you don't respond to tells.

adamkatt
08-13-2007, 10:39 AM
I've always just used /afk if I'm not in a group. If people send me tells they will get the message.

If in group I type /p afk fam in party chat when I have to get up quickly (have a family...sometimes have to leave quick) and always let people know when I return. Never been a /lfh person, never will be I expect...but I do understand and agree with the courtesy factor.


The /afk would make sense if the game put up some sort of visual graphic above your head.

Solstice
08-13-2007, 10:54 AM
For the noobies, just /death...
don't /lfh.

Then at least we can pick up your soulstone and you will auto-follow along with the party, thereby saving us the time and effort of coming back to find your lost self from what will probably amount to be at least half the quest away. This also saves us mana as you will undoubtedly find some new and inventive way to die at least twice while running to catch up to the rest of the party.

For some reason, I couldn't get the Permadeath guy to see the logic of this. For the life of me, I can't figure out why. :D


ROFLMAO
ty for make my day better, have a nice monday
:D

Jundak
08-13-2007, 11:34 AM
Yeah I do /afk too, I let my party know and anyone sending me tells will know once they see the message, /lfh is an amusing idea and it isn't too bad of one either, well I can recognize Xorians in general chat from them getting in other people's conversations in which I insult them, their momma, and their manhood, but now I know why I've seen so many people /lfh, it was the Tharashkians!

In a raid, with conversations rolling and the chat window scrolling, we've been known to leave people behind and start the final fight. We always tell new people to put up their /lfh and we explain why. When we don't see the ham floating above your head, we assume (after instruction and explanation has been given) that you are ready to go into the next instance.

Yes, we understand that maybe whoever is yammering should just shaddup. But since every single one of us is guilty of talking too much at some point or another, we use this universal visual to show who's back and who isn't. After using this in raids for well over a year, it's obviously become habit for us to go /lfh in all parties and instances when we step away from the keyboard...regardless, you can be assured that Tharashkians aren't using it to be silly. There is a method behind our madness.

Scarsgaard
08-13-2007, 11:44 AM
Usually I use the /dance... I'll use /LFH since it seems more universal.

Skaves
08-13-2007, 02:34 PM
Well this at least explains why when I returned to Thelanis for a day I saw loads of people in taverns looking for ham and more than a few searching mailboxes for ham. For a while I thought Merlask was doing something with ham.

Jundak
08-13-2007, 03:16 PM
Well this at least explains why when I returned to Thelanis for a day I saw loads of people in taverns looking for ham and more than a few searching mailboxes for ham. For a while I thought Merlask was doing something with ham.

Speaking of which...Hey, Merlask! Now you prolly understand why no one on Tharashk offered you a ham during your tour there. We just thought you were afk. :D

Merlask
08-13-2007, 04:56 PM
Speaking of which...Hey, Merlask! Now you prolly understand why no one on Tharashk offered you a ham during your tour there. We just thought you were afk. :D

lol I just figured it was because you all were busy doin other stuff ;)

Hey now, I'm not the ham hunter...merely a trafficer :X

PaintHorseCowboy
08-14-2007, 01:28 AM
The /afk would make sense if the game put up some sort of visual graphic above your head.

Graphic...hmm....

Maybe, AFK!

Maybe they should change the afk message from "This player is currently away from their keyboard" to: "Hey you stupid ******, I told you on voice I'm afk, I have the big ham and AFK! up over my forhead and yet you're still sending me tells?!?! There's this new invention called Q-tips. I've heard they work pretty well. Ya might wanna invest in a box or two. While you're at it, get someone to clean your glasses!"

Now, you will know in no uncertain terms when a player is truly AFK.

Just one of those random 0024 hours thoughts when I've had a little less than what would be called normal amounts of sleep.

I'm not an insomniac. They stay awake by accident. I stay awake on purpose because of all the lovely butterflies to kill.

Jundak
08-14-2007, 08:16 AM
Maybe they should change the afk message from "This player is currently away from their keyboard" to: "Hey you stupid ******, I told you on voice I'm afk, I have the big ham and AFK! up over my forhead and yet you're still sending me tells?!?! There's this new invention called Q-tips. I've heard they work pretty well. Ya might wanna invest in a box or two. While you're at it, get someone to clean your glasses!"

Hmph...like a scrolling neon sign above the head? Suppose that could work. :p

Solstice
08-14-2007, 11:55 AM
Hmph...like a scrolling neon sign above the head? Suppose that could work. :p

will not work, Jun
75% or more players don't know read a LFM, imagine a text in chat window...

binnsr
08-14-2007, 12:01 PM
will not work, Jun
75% or more players don't know read a LFM, imagine a text in chat window...

QFT! I was looking for 2 ppl to fill out a guild PoP run last night .. the first guy to request entrance sent me a tell 'What quest are you running?' The LFG comment said 'PoP for lewt and relics" and the quest was set to "The Prison of the Planes"
Needless to say, he didn't make the team - and I didn't dignify him with a reply..

PaintHorseCowboy
08-14-2007, 01:17 PM
ROFLMAO
ty for make my day better, have a nice monday
:D

You're welcome Sol.

Mine was "Monday the Thirteenth".

I swear, the idiots were coming out of the woodwork. All I could think about was how immensely gratifying it would be to connect with a solid shield bash right to their beak.

My best story of yesterday? (FYI, in addition to flying 8-10 days a month, I also work part time at a local outfitters just to get out of the house when I'm not on my flight block.) We had a real genius of a guy bring back a kayak, sit-on-top style, and tell us that it was defective because it "leaked". When I asked him where it was leaking from, he pointed to the self-draining scupper holes and said "Water was coming in there." It was all I could do not to reach out and slap him but instead responded, "Those are self-draining scupper holes. Water is supposed to come up through them to cool you. It's one of the features of this type of kayak."

He had already told us he didn't talk to anyone, just got it off the wall and paid for it, so when he responded, "Well, no one told ME that!"

Even the head cashier got into the groove and told him, "Well I'm sure if you had talked with one of our knowledgable people, they'd have pointed out this fact and made you aware of it. I'm sorry sir, but we can't return this product since it is not truly defective and you just didn't take the time to research what you were buying. We cannot resell it due to liability."

The guy popped a cork and we had to call the police.

And that was all by 9:30am, and the store only opened at 9:00am. The day got worse from there.

Why does this smack of the type of player who spies a LFM, reads it (or maybe doesn't), hits JOIN, and then the first words out of their mouth is "Hey, what are we doing and where do I go?"

Shamguard
08-14-2007, 03:55 PM
The problem with the /afk is there is no visual indication and it only sends a message if someone send you a tell. There is also a problem with people forgetting to do a /afk off when they come back.

With the /lfh it is nice and visual plus it goes away as soon as you move.:cool:

Besides dancing means your getting impatient and are ready to get started with the F***ING quest that you've had a full party for the last half hour, but someone when afk just before the last person joined.:mad: Even worse you have the tag team afks where just before or as one person returns someone else goes afk.:mad:

So, to calm down I just break dance till the whole party is ready to roll.:cool:

Beside we former Tharashkians are a bunch of hams anyway.:p

Anyway I still haven't seen this new world everyone keeps talking about. It still looks like the same old Stormreach to me. Just more noobs.

Shamguard
08-14-2007, 04:04 PM
You're welcome Sol.

Mine was "Monday the Thirteenth".

I swear, the idiots were coming out of the woodwork. All I could think about was how immensely gratifying it would be to connect with a solid shield bash right to their beak.

My best story of yesterday? (FYI, in addition to flying 8-10 days a month, I also work part time at a local outfitters just to get out of the house when I'm not on my flight block.) We had a real genius of a guy bring back a kayak, sit-on-top style, and tell us that it was defective because it "leaked". When I asked him where it was leaking from, he pointed to the self-draining scupper holes and said "Water was coming in there." It was all I could do not to reach out and slap him but instead responded, "Those are self-draining scupper holes. Water is supposed to come up through them to cool you. It's one of the features of this type of kayak."

He had already told us he didn't talk to anyone, just got it off the wall and paid for it, so when he responded, "Well, no one told ME that!"

Even the head cashier got into the groove and told him, "Well I'm sure if you had talked with one of our knowledgable people, they'd have pointed out this fact and made you aware of it. I'm sorry sir, but we can't return this product since it is not truly defective and you just didn't take the time to research what you were buying. We cannot resell it due to liability."

The guy popped a cork and we had to call the police.

And that was all by 9:30am, and the store only opened at 9:00am. The day got worse from there.

Why does this smack of the type of player who spies a LFM, reads it (or maybe doesn't), hits JOIN, and then the first words out of their mouth is "Hey, what are we doing and where do I go?"

Just remember one rule and it explains everything.

PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!!!:mad:

We all are idiots at sometime, the difference is there are many who either don't recognize this or are unwilling to admit to it. Me I know I am an idiot so I just live with it and try to show it as little as possible.

Melioch
08-14-2007, 05:19 PM
The community asked for an /afk emote and what did we get?

/gather and /stop

binnsr
08-14-2007, 05:23 PM
The community asked for an /afk emote and what did we get?

/gather and /stop

Possibly because there was a lot of commentary over what people are currently using, the development team decided that the community already had /afk covered via other means..

Scarsgaard
08-14-2007, 05:25 PM
QFT! I was looking for 2 ppl to fill out a guild PoP run last night .. the first guy to request entrance sent me a tell 'What quest are you running?' The LFG comment said 'PoP for lewt and relics" and the quest was set to "The Prison of the Planes"
Needless to say, he didn't make the team - and I didn't dignify him with a reply..

Same thing happened to Us last night... LFM up for POP... guy asks to join... his 1st comment, "I'm in the Market... where's PoP?" needless to say we never invited him:D

Wotansdottir
08-14-2007, 05:35 PM
If they had granted an /afk emote, what do you all think it would have looked like? Since we have /lfh, /dance, /sleep, /stop, etc. etc... I have no idea what they would have come up with for an /afk emote. What do you think?

Scarsgaard
08-14-2007, 05:44 PM
If they had granted an /afk emote, what do you all think it would have looked like? Since we have /lfh, /dance, /sleep, /stop, etc. etc... I have no idea what they would have come up with for an /afk emote. What do you think?

or /mesohorny :D

Lizzybrat
08-14-2007, 05:55 PM
or /mesohorny :D

So would the actual action be the character humping?

I would never be able to tell if my guildies were afk or not since they continually seem to be trying to hump something or someone.

Shamguard
08-14-2007, 08:48 PM
You know someone who is /lfh is bent over just right for the sneak mode jump.:D

DZX
08-14-2007, 11:11 PM
On Lhazaar (Poor Lhazaar) we always used lookign for ham on Wednesdays at the Lhazaar Bazaar to let other players know which of us were trading or selling items. My plan to get the bazaar going again on Ghallanda now.

PaintHorseCowboy
08-15-2007, 12:17 AM
Just remember one rule and it explains everything.

PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!!!:mad:


Yes, and don't forget this little jewel of ancient wisdom:

Never underestimate the power of STUPID people in large quantity.


...as would be evidenced by the large number of level 14 toons who were LFM this morning, had the quest and difficulty actually set, and showing wanting a caster.

The only problem was, they really wanted a tank. I don't know about you, but it seems pretty difficult to mix up the icons for Fighter, Barbarian, and Paladin with those of Wizard or Sorcerer.

I guess for some folks, basic mechanics are not so basic. :eek:

Strings
08-15-2007, 07:02 PM
QFT! I was looking for 2 ppl to fill out a guild PoP run last night .. the first guy to request entrance sent me a tell 'What quest are you running?' The LFG comment said 'PoP for lewt and relics" and the quest was set to "The Prison of the Planes" Needless to say, he didn't make the team - and I didn't dignify him with a reply..

Not sure if it's just me or a known bug, but I've had cases where I don't see the posted quest in the LFM window. You have to actually scroll over the blank spot where the quest name usually is to get all the info.

That might explain why some people ask what quest you're on. I know I was treated like a noob when I came back to the game after a 6 month break because I didn't know what PoP was.

Jundak
08-15-2007, 07:29 PM
Not sure if it's just me or a known bug, but I've had cases where I don't see the posted quest in the LFM window. You have to actually scroll over the blank spot where the quest name usually is to get all the info.

That might explain why some people ask what quest you're on. I know I was treated like a noob when I came back to the game after a 6 month break because I didn't know what PoP was.

It's not just you...might be a bug, like you said. Sometimes those folks don't have a quest up, though, and I avoid those groups altogether...that includes the LFM's with the "group decides what we do" note. I've better things to do than make up someone's mind for them. Like starting my own LFM with all the pertinent information in the aforementioned note area.

Vua
08-15-2007, 07:51 PM
People just don't read. Last night after having 3-4 people join a Dragon Raid that hadn't done 1-4, the leader posted that you need to have von 1-4 completed to do the raid. Then we get people joining because they think we are now running von 1-4. Which one are you guys doing now? sigh

narizue
08-15-2007, 08:21 PM
My pet peeve is people ignoring the quick run on normal comment.

I cannot count the number of folks that have responed to LFMS for the Vons or DQ flagging with "Can we do this on elite?" Every time that this happens I think to myself, great another AC who can't get favor with his friends and guildies that wants to run it now. "No dammit we can't do it on elite!" The whole purpose of a speed run is speed not favor, not loot, speed.

About half the time after they get the resounding "NO!" the response of "Well its not that much harder" comes out of their mouths. Which leads me to thinking if it wasn't that much harder AC then you would have that fave by now.

I don't mind doing flagging quests on elite to helps folks with fave, never have, but not when I am trying to do a bloody speed run.

binnsr
08-15-2007, 08:38 PM
Not sure if it's just me or a known bug, but I've had cases where I don't see the posted quest in the LFM window. You have to actually scroll over the blank spot where the quest name usually is to get all the info.

That might explain why some people ask what quest you're on. I know I was treated like a noob when I came back to the game after a 6 month break because I didn't know what PoP was.

the difference here was that in anticipation of the non-displaying quest bug, my note field contained the quest we were doing. Now, I suppose that it's possible to get your sorcerer to level 14 without having ever heard the term PoP, but I have yet to find someone of that nature..

Shyver
08-16-2007, 09:15 AM
I suppose that it's possible to get your sorcerer to level 14 without having ever heard the term PoP, but I have yet to find someone of that nature..

What's PoP??? :confused:







:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

PaintHorseCowboy
08-16-2007, 10:26 AM
Isn't PoP something you drink?

Comes in various flavors like Coke, Root Beer, Orange, Mountain Dew, etc?

Some of which go very will with certain quantities of alcohol? Which according to Scars is required for a GOOD run? (Though if memory serves me correctly, he said beer).

As someone's signature line says: It's 3AM, do you know what your guild leader's BAC is?