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Castlehawk
08-06-2007, 04:36 PM
Bring out the Spear or a Two Handed Hvy Pick

Piercing specialists are at a disadvantage.

Gimpster
08-06-2007, 05:32 PM
Bring out the Spear or a Two Handed Hvy Pick
Piercing specialists are at a disadvantage.
Or, follow the D&D rule that anyone holding a one-handed weapon with no shield can use a two-handed grip and receive the normal advantages of two-handers.

Hence
08-06-2007, 05:43 PM
I like Gimpsters idea... lets have it automatically work as a two handed weapon if you have that item equiped with no shield.

Forget the whole spear throwing worries, nobody needs to throw their spears.

The Dreamspitter from the Reaver Raid looks just like a spear, but uses the Quarterstaff attack sequence and hits with only Blunt dmg.

Couldn't that weapon be switched to all peirce damage? Use the Quarterstaff attacks for spears, and make every hit peirce instead of blunt. Seems like it would be easy to implement.

Glenalth
08-06-2007, 06:11 PM
Or, follow the D&D rule that anyone holding a one-handed weapon with no shield can use a two-handed grip and receive the normal advantages of two-handers.

What rule are you talking about?

Gimpster
08-06-2007, 06:54 PM
What rule are you talking about?
This rule
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#lightOneHandedandTwoHandedMeleeWeapons

(Note that Rapiers are a special exception and can't be used in two hands)

MysticTheurge
08-06-2007, 07:05 PM
(Note that Rapiers are a special exception and can't be used in two hands)

Just to clarify, for people who don't recognize the reference to "one-handed" as the category of weapons and not just whether it wields in one or two hands, it also doesn't apply to "light" weapons.

Basically, if you can Finesse it, you can't wield it in two hands.

Tanka
08-07-2007, 12:04 AM
While we're on weapon requests: Scythes!

Glenalth
08-07-2007, 01:29 AM
This rule
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#lightOneHandedandTwoHandedMeleeWeapons

(Note that Rapiers are a special exception and can't be used in two hands)

Sweet. That's something to remember next time I don't have time to grab my shield.

Knightrose
08-07-2007, 06:08 AM
Yes give us Scythes, Pikes, Glaives, Halbers, Spears, all that good stuff.

Gimpster
08-07-2007, 02:36 PM
Or, follow the D&D rule that anyone holding a one-handed weapon with no shield can use a two-handed grip and receive the normal advantages of two-handers.
Special warning suggestion:

If DDO adds that PnP rule, the DDO khopesh should be another exception which is not allowed to be used in two hands. The 19-20/x3 khopesh is already overpowered for 1h use, but it would be even worse if you allowed it to benefit from the 2h grip, where it would do more damage than a greataxe or falchion.

EinarMal
08-07-2007, 02:42 PM
Special warning suggestion:

If DDO adds that PnP rule, the DDO khopesh should be another exception which is not allowed to be used in two hands. The 19-20/x3 khopesh is already overpowered for 1h use, but it would be even worse if you allowed it to benefit from the 2h grip, where it would do more damage than a greataxe or falchion.

Aw but I want my new SOS without having to deal with the new raid mechanic :D You might finally be able to find a random weapon that would come pretty close.

Castlehawk
08-07-2007, 05:15 PM
overall...i believe there is a embalance for those that choose to become piercing specialists.