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Zyklon
08-03-2007, 07:45 PM
I have a Greater Two-Handed spec'd 28-pt Fighter that is a blast to play. I'm hoping with this Gr. Two-Handed Fighting Bard with his Blur/Displacement/Warchant/Rage/Songs he will deal much more damage. If 1750 is acheived then +2 to str (for now it's left out of the build). Currently only planned for a +1 int tome at level 1 so you get 2 points with the fighter levels and can keep UMD maxed.

The difference between my 28-pt Fighter (12 fighter/1 pally/1ranger) and this build is 21 hitpoints.

Level 14 UMD is 21 unbuffed. The UMD will allow equipping various +6 stat items I have that are RR other than dwarf.

Greataxes are the weapon of choice and buffing other party members will be very limited. Saving mana for Displacement is a must.

UPDATE: Currently Level 8 (Bard 7/Fighter 1)
Decided to eat a Charisma tome (got a RR +4 chr cloak and the tome got me to my final score of 18 chr). Warchant is a great boost. Groups find it difficult to comprehend a Dwarf Bard. Let alone a Dwarf Bard that is Two-Handed Fighting build and wants to be a frontline fighter. Ran Stormcleave (on Hard) at Level 7 and I was the main healer and still managed to get (steal) 75% of the kills. Crits run in the low 110's. He has an 18 Chr now with 374 spell points and 115 hitpoints (haven't had a chance to take a toughness feat yet). For now I took Good Hope and Haste, since scrolls of Displacement are dirt cheap with a 25 haggle. Also, managed to snag a RR vorpal he can now use (currently has 1 point in Fighter: confirm criticals to help). The other thing to carry is Recitation scrolls, they are cheap and at lower levels clerics can't justify mem'ing it - plus they last 40 secs off the scroll, long enough to Axe down a mob of baddies.

--THE BUILD--

Kaelos of Moradin
32-Point Build
Level 14 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
(6 Fighter \ 8 Bard)
Hit Points: 272 w/+6 con ring
Spell Points: 433 cha stat and magi item
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 11 (14)
Reflex: 10 (13)
Will: 7 (13)

Base Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1)
Strength 17
Dexterity 14
Constitution 16
Intelligence 9
Wisdom 8
Charisma 12

End/Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 14)
Strength 22 +6 gloves = 28 str, 30 raged
Dexterity 14 +6 boots = 20
Constitution 18 +6 ring = 24, 26 raged
Intelligence 10
Wisdom 8 +2 BAM Helm = 10
Charisma 13 +5 ring = 18

Spells List
- Level 1
Expeditious Retreat
Focusing Chat
Remove Fear
Feather Fall

- Level 2
Blur
Heroism
Rage
Cure Mod. Wounds

- Level 3
Displacement
Haste
Good Hope

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 14)
Balance 6 17
Bluff 1 4
Concentration 3 4
Diplomacy 1 1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 5 12
Heal -1 -1
Hide 2 2
Intimidate 1 1
Jump 5 17
Listen -1 -1
Move Silently 2 2
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform 5 12
Repair 0 0
Search 0 2
Spot -1 -1
Swim 3 6
Tumble 4 4
Use Magic Device 5 18

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 2 (Bard)

Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

Level 4 (Bard)

Level 5 (Bard)

Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 7 (Bard)

Level 8 (Bard)

Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting

Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 11 (Fighter)

Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons

Level 13 (Fighter)

Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Warchanter I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I



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shores11
08-02-2009, 05:59 PM
How is this build working for you?

hydra_ex
08-02-2009, 06:31 PM
If you could do it all again, I would have HIGHLY recommened WF, as in the update formerly called mod, WF gain enhc which effectively increase you glancing blow damage.

Zyklon
08-04-2009, 01:40 PM
How is this build working for you?

Changed the build a bit from this old post...

I went 12 bard / 4 fighter (so, slightly different than originally planned). Still managed to fit in greater two-handed.
He is at 396 hit points and 590 mana. 13 songs.
Fails a Heal scroll on a 3, I think. Majority of healing is from wands and scrolls.

16+??
2 more lvls of bard and maybe 2 lvls of rogue for evasion (maybe put some points in to open lock if I can).

It is a fun build.

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Zyklon
08-04-2009, 01:41 PM
If you could do it all again, I would have HIGHLY recommened WF, as in the update formerly called mod, WF gain enhc which effectively increase you glancing blow damage.

I prefer dwarf. But yes WF would be effective as well.

Alcides
08-04-2009, 01:54 PM
That's quite a few levels of Fighter for not much gain. 1 Fighter/15 Bard is going to be way more beneficial to a party since you will have all the song buffs. You can use Divine Power clickies to compensate for the Lower BAB during critical points during an adventure.

Zyklon
08-04-2009, 02:01 PM
That's quite a few levels of Fighter for not much gain. 1 Fighter/15 Bard is going to be way more beneficial to a party since you will have all the song buffs. You can use Divine Power clickies to compensate for the Lower BAB during critical points during an adventure.

He's capped and works great. Only thing I wish I could do is cast GH not scroll it. Other than that I like it as is.

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PS: this is an old build from 2007

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Alcides
08-04-2009, 03:10 PM
He's capped and works great. Only thing I wish I could do is cast GH not scroll it. Other than that I like it as is.

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PS: this is an old build from 2007

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Since it only has 4 levels of fighter...I would end the build as 4 fighter/16 bard. That'll get you all the major bard goodies except for the last +1/+1 on inspire courage.

ChadMan
08-04-2009, 10:35 PM
soon like tonight or tomarow im going to roll up the build with the same consept

but my build is going to be a 16 bard 2 barb 2 rouge with some traps skills thrown in so it seems like it should be fun

thow im so feat starved :(

WorstGEver
08-07-2009, 08:49 AM
soon like tonight or tomarow im going to roll up the build with the same consept

but my build is going to be a 16 bard 2 barb 2 rouge with some traps skills thrown in so it seems like it should be fun

thow im so feat starved :(


Right now my Warchanter is sitting at 14 Bard/2 Fighter. No, I don't have that last Bard song, but my songs are capped out... so I'm helping others in the group a lot with that, and honestly.. very, very few people ask for the AC song and none are upset when I say I don't have it.

Since I can't get the last Inspire Courage bump for being 20 Bard, the only thing I'd really get from going more Bard would be the AC song.. but with that new Kensai Fighter prestige class coming out, I'm going with that. At lvl 20 I'll buy it and I'll get +1 to hit, +2 to dmg & confirm crits, and a +4 to dmg before the crit... as well as glancing blows since I'm THF. I think having those things is a lot better than just the AC song.. and at 4 Fighter I'll get Weapon specialization, bonus right there.

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