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Baryn
06-29-2007, 12:53 PM
When wearing the Seven-Fingered Gloves (which give -10% to ASF), it only affects one item with spell failure.

For example; if I wear a Heavy Mithral Shield that has 5% spell failure, and I wear a set of armor that has 5% spell failure, I still retain a 5% ASF chance.

Is this intended, or an overlooked calculation?

Aspenor
06-29-2007, 12:53 PM
No enhancements or items which reduce ASF effect shield ASF. You must either use a shield with 0% asf naturally, or just deal with the 5%.

Impaqt
06-29-2007, 12:54 PM
Bug report it.

Aspenor
06-29-2007, 12:56 PM
Bug report it.

Its not a bug, Impaqt. The gloves should not affect shield ASF. Only armor asf.

bobbryan2
06-29-2007, 12:58 PM
Its not a bug, Impaqt. The gloves should not affect shield ASF. Only armor asf.

And what are you basing that on? Other than, that's the way it's coded.

Seems to me the gloves should reduce shield asf too.

Impaqt
06-29-2007, 01:00 PM
Its not a bug, Impaqt. The gloves should not affect shield ASF. Only armor asf.

Why?

It makes no sense to me that a Pair of gloves could reduce ASF from Armor but not from a Sheild....

tihocan
06-29-2007, 01:10 PM
What does the description say in the first place?

TreknaQudane
06-29-2007, 01:13 PM
Arcane Casting Dexterity: This ability reduces the arcane spell failure chance by -10%

And on this note; it does worth with shields, my Bard/Fighter has the gloves on and a shield with 5% ASF, I don't get that anymore since getting them.

Graal
06-29-2007, 02:28 PM
7 fingered gloves reduce all forms of ASF. I ran a quick test and the gloves reduce ASF correctly when wearing both shield and armor.

There could still be a problem with your specific set of race, items, classes, feats, and enhancements so submit a bug with the necessary information and we'll check it out.

Mad_Bombardier
06-29-2007, 02:30 PM
No enhancements or items which reduce ASF effect shield ASF.Arcane Sigil Docents do. shhhhh... ;)

Baryn
06-29-2007, 02:47 PM
7 fingered gloves reduce all forms of ASF. I ran a quick test and the gloves reduce ASF correctly when wearing both shield and armor.

There could still be a problem with your specific set of race, items, classes, feats, and enhancements so submit a bug with the necessary information and we'll check it out.

Thanks very much for the quick response. Will double check my sets, and bug report if necessary.

EDIT: Checked my sets, did some testing, and submitted a bug report. When wearing +5 Padded Armor (5% failure), I have no ASF. When wearing a +5 Mithral Heavy Shield (5% failure). I have no ASF.

When wearing both of them, I have ASF. Unless there is a hidden extra +5% ASF for wearing armor you aren't proficient in, I'm not seeing why this happens. But it's reported, and hopefully it gets looked into.

Soul-Shaker
06-30-2007, 02:06 PM
there is a bug, but its just display. My friend currently uses hvy mith ss, and a mith cs, with 1 drow asf enhancement. He gets the asf check on every cast but doesnt fail on even 1%.

Aspenor
06-30-2007, 10:22 PM
I stand corrected, then. I don't have the gloves but I guess I assumed they worked the same as the enhancements do.